Chapter 2 was a eye opener to how we make judgements, use our bias, and make moralist stands while sitting at our desk.
at our school desks we can be exceptionally self righteous
1. In the real world had closely to Mr McCulley would you have responded to the fight?
2. Sean commented that people will see it "wrong" what does that mean and is this true?
Answer the 2 questions but also respond to 2 other people by commenting on there posts. Ask questions and challenge their positions. This should generate dialogue and bring out the real value in blogging.
I would act very similar to him because for him being disable to walk, he would look very innocent because he dragged himself over to the wheel chair and he was on the floor and few metres away from his chair so how did he get there so I would blame Shawn because he would be the one fighting and we would have a bad reputation
ReplyDeleteWell that's because he kind of pushed his own wheelchair away.
Deletegreat answer but if you had known how it started how would you have reacted.
DeleteI would act like it was David's fault but I didn't know so I have to believe other kids and seeing how Sean's not disable it looks like it his fault
DeleteThe wheel chair started moving is because Sean fell on David and they started going down the ramp and that's why they both fliped
Deleteso you would have not seen sean get punched or scrape his fist.
DeleteBut still I would've blamed David if I saw the being but I didn't so I blamed Sean because he was fighting someone disabled and I came out at the end so no I wouldn't have seen the that
DeleteWhat about those two people who said the truth? The other four probably came later into the fight and got a totally different perspective
Delete1. How closely I would have responded to the fight would be to blame Sean first, but once Sean really defendes himself of saying the guy in the wheelchair started it first. I would take some time to think and might probably believe him. Because maybe the guy in the wheelchair is not innocent. Maybe how he ended up in a wheelchair was in a fight too. I would take some to think about Sean and how he said he wanted a “Fresh Start”.
ReplyDeletewhy would you have called david innocent in the first place.
Deleteyou only didn't because you knew the truth
DeleteBecause he wanted a fresh start, and he was trying to!
Deleteyou didn't really answer my question there.
DeleteI'm on rajveer with this. Sorry Jackie. :( but he is right. Why would you just right away think Sean is innocent. What makes you think he's innocent?? Just because he says he needs a fresh start doesn't mean he could keep his words. Like I know you Jackie. In the real world you would do the exact same thing, you wouldn't give second chances. I am guranteed. :/
DeleteBut because of Seans past wouldnt you just blame everything on him? Wouldnt you feel bad for the kid in the wheel chair(yes you would)You would have blammed sean for everything because thats what you saw,you are so mad because of this fight you wouldnt be so sympathetic towards Sean because your so angry at the time you cant control your mind your oviously going to blame Sean
DeleteI'm not trying to call David innocent, I'am just saying that he shouldn't really be called all the glory of a wheelchair.
DeleteI know because of his past! I know that it would EASY to blame on him, but I don't think he would really go against a guy in the wheelchair when he was the one being victimized first.
DeleteHe wouldnt go against him but it would be smart to investigate
DeleteBut Jackie how do you know if Sean would go pick on a wheelchair??? He has a bad reputation. Why do think that Sean wouldn't go against a guy on the wheelchair? Can you prove that??
DeleteWhat would you think would happen if the VP called David's parents? They would probably know about his fighting habits assuming by his attitude, it doesn't seem like a new thing
DeleteJackie if you we're being chased by a little kid who you would say it "evil" no one would expects that a little kid would be picking on a 13 year old
Deleteif you had seen the truth, when david started punching, it would have a diffirent point of view.
DeleteRajveer yes it would but not many knee the truth
DeleteWhat about the 2 people that knew the truth? They were probably there from the beginning, the other 4 probably joined in on watching the fight when David's wheel chair rolled down the ramp. It's all about their perspective and when they came. Mr.McCulley should of asked who was there from the beginning, but the look of it he didn't
DeleteExactly I agree with Rochelle and Gitie. Gitie is also has details that make a lot of sense to me. If the VP were to call David's home, like his parents probably wouldn't believe that their son was involve with a fight. He can't get off his chair, he's in wheelchair. How can he get up?? You see back to Rochelle's comment, it's the same thing. It's a comparison. No one would expect that a kid in a wheelchair would fight with another student :P
DeleteExcatly Abigail . No one would except such a thing Gutierrez
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DeleteYou just said it: “No one would suspect.” But just because no one can suspect does not mean there was not a possibility that he started it when WE ALL KNOW he did.
DeleteI would, I would investigate PROPERLY, meaning questioning David too
DeleteYes Gitie, PREACH THE TRUTH!
DeleteYes there is . But we reacted to the way we saw the problem and we answer to the way we think the fight went down
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ReplyDelete2. I think he means by wrong because everybody gets the wrong message when your fighting with someone disable so they usually think the one who is not disable get in trouble because they get it wrong
ReplyDeleteSuhaib if you started the fight and you were disabled would you tell the truth?
DeleteWhat about the people from the beginning?
Delete1. In real life, I would do something alike Mr.McCulley. Not tottally the same, but I would judge Sean's past. You can't lie, it's a habit. But according to the book, Sean wanted a total fresh start. And since Mr.McCulley promised him a fresh new start, I would just let him off the hook. Or make him clean the school or something. I would think putting the two problems together would create a even bigger one. But for David on the other hand, I wouldn't let him off the hook. What ever happened to "don't judge a book by its cover". Just because he currently uses a wheel chair, it doesn't make him "Mr.Nice-Guy".
ReplyDeleteBut still he is disable making him look innocent and Sean has a bad reputation and Sean so fully capable of fighting and so it looks like David is mr.nice guy
DeleteBut why would you look at his bad side. Mr. mcculley said Sean gets a new leaf why would he use it as evidence. I wouldn't forget it but wouldn't mention it either
DeleteBUT Suhaib, you don't know the story of how he ended up in a wheelchair, I agree with Gitie. You don't know how ended up in a wheel chair. What if it was HIS fault he ended up in that wheelchair, he may not be innocent just because he looks innocent.
DeleteExactly but he is a new kid and so it is his fault still
DeleteI agree with suhaib . We react to the way we see things and although it wasn't fair for mr.mcCulley to act that way most of us would never think it was a disabled kid
DeleteYes Sean had a new start. If you we're probably to look at David right now, he would probably have more cuts and scratches then Sean. Since he did do the fist action. Once again, what ever happened to "Don't judge a book by its cover"
DeleteBut we say don't judge a book by its cover but we still do ! We read the back of the book and ect but what makes us notice the book ?
DeleteBut I always read the last page. What would you think would happen,if the VP called David's house? Assuming by his attitude it doesn't seem l
DeleteLike a new thing. Anyways if you we're to like look at David, I'm pretty sure you will find cuts and scrapes
That doesn't prove much other then they both got hurt .
DeleteDoes David really look innocent???
DeleteNot really, I would assume he has scrapes on his knuckles too.
DeleteDavid doesn't . Like what I'm trying to say we react to the way we see the problem
DeleteMaybe David had a bad past so he acted tough so no one would think he is just disabled.
DeleteDavid looks innnocent. Gitie why would you let Sean off the hook , and still let David get in trouble.??? Like by the looks of it, David's on a wheelchair. How could he be able to get off his wheelchair to start a fight?? It looks nearly impossible. That makes it looks as if Sean did it. Also Sean has a bad reputation. Even though you say you let him start fresh, Can you trust him??? Is he believable??
DeleteAgree with Arvind. David needs to act like a big guy, so people would be scared of him. And not look down at him
DeleteHe dosn't look innocent, but the fact is, he is innocent.
Delete@Abigail I would still punish but as "bad" as David because like he started, he started the yelling and fact is he did get off and he did fight
DeleteWe could act big but no one suspect david a kid IN A WHEEL CHAIR !
DeleteI would still ask him, it said it self that there was a crowd of people! So people had have to seen it from the beginngin
DeleteQuestion 1: In the real world, I would have reacted the same way as Mr.McCulley. That would be because the guy in the wheelchair would be looking innocent. If the guy is disabled, we would be feeling bad for him. That's why we would think that Sean would have started the whole fight even thought it was actually David. Also, if Sean had such a bad reputation in that school, McCulley would never have believed him.
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DeleteWhat ever happened to "don't judge a book by its cover" plus what would you think would happen if Mr.McCulley called David parents? They would probably know his fighting habits
DeleteBut Pooja it's just not fair that Sean has to go that way just because the kid he wouldn't speak up the truth.
DeleteYes it isn't fair but if you see something and you don't know the truth your going to react to the problem the way saw it
DeleteIt all depends on perspective, if I was Mr.McCulley, I would ask who was there from the beginning. By the look of it, it doesn't look like Mr.McCulley did that, he just did random
DeleteSean isnt supposed to get in trouble! its because of what other people saw.
Deletethat is true but We react to the way we see things and maybe students gave the answer the way it went down
DeleteThey think it went down
DeleteBut Rochelle, along the way trying to figure out how the fight started you would ask questions, would you not?
DeleteQ1= I think I would do the same thing what Mr. McCully did because if I see a person in a wheelchair I would not think that the wheelchair person does bad behaviour so I think that the other person started it all and I would do what Mr. McCully did to Sean.
ReplyDeleteWhat makes a kid in a wheelchair so defenseless? He could run over your toes xD
DeleteA kid in a wheelchair is still a kid, so why would you think he couldn't start the fight?
1. Mr.Mculley and I would have acted the same way. If I were to see a specialized child in a wheel chair fighting with a non- speacilzed child i wouldn't even think it would be the kid in the week chair.
ReplyDeleteI know it would seem "unfair" to just assume the child in the wheel chair is innocent but it just wouldn't seem practical If the kid in the wheel chair started a fight .
A lot of people say that you shouldn't treat someone different because they weren't born the same way as us but in the real world most of us would and half of us wouldn't even think that a kid in a wheel chair started a fight .
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Deletewould you have if had know the truth, and not seeing how it started or how the chair rolled down the ramp.
DeleteIf I knew what happen i would obviously see things different but we react to what we see and If I saw a kid in a wheel chair fighting with a non- disabled kid I would never think it was the kid in the wheel chair
Delete2. I think when Sean meant that people will see it wrong is that people might think that Sean started it because it looked like Sean started the fight. People might think that Sean started picking on the guy and that he pushed him off his wheelchair and made it roll down the ramp. Because the other students were not really in the fight, they might suspect or talk wrong, and I think that I'd very true.
ReplyDeletewhat if they wanted Sean to get in trouble because they hate him?
DeleteI would do what Mr. McCulley did. If I see two people that were fighting, one that is always getting into fights and also got introuble many times(Sean), and the other one that is new to that school, and can`t even walk, so he had to drag himself to his wheelchair(David), I would surely blame Sean not David.
ReplyDeletewell would you investigate people on the fight????????????
DeleteYou said that you'd surely blame Sean, but in the book, Mr McCulley goes to get a few students' response when Sean requests him to. Would you go and ask students for their input or immediately suspend him?
DeleteYes I would because I would want to find out what is the truth and who is responsible for all this. But I would also be sure to ask many people, not just 6 people
Deletewell would you ask david that how did this fight started? Why or Why not? And if you do what would you ask him? And if you don't why wouldn't you?
Delete1. In chapter 2, Mr.McCulley witness Sean and David fighting each other physically. Mr.McCulley put the blame on Sean because Sean has a reputation of causing trouble and always fighting. On the other hand, David is on a wheelchair. Automatically by seeing David struggle, everyone knows he has a disability of using his legs. Everyone would show some sympathy/empathy towards him. Therefore everyone would see Sean as the suspect.
ReplyDeleteEveryone would say that Mr.McMculley was wrong yet, we would do the exact same thing. That's basically hypocritical to say he's wrong. If I was Mr.McCulley I would have the exact same thing, because Sean made his reputation to be the trouble maker around the school. David would be the student who looks innocent to me because he new to the school, he hasn't made a reputation yet.
2. Similar to the question above, Sean is worried because he got into a fight with David on the wheelchair, he has a disability. There is no way by what people witness that a guy on a wheelchair, could start the fight, because of his appearance & disability. So the trouble goes back to Sean himself. Second of all, Sean is known as the trouble maker of the school, everyone would automatically tell the vice principal that Sean started it all. Sean knew what was ahead of him, he had a feeling that people would see him as "that kid that pick on David."
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DeleteWould you have acted the same way David did when Sean didn't move or would you have acted a different way ?
Delete1. In the real world had closely to Mr McCulley would you have responded to the fight?
ReplyDelete-I think I would react the same the way Mr.McCulley did but without the very loud screaming and I would have brang the boy in the wheel car in my office too, I would have asked them both questions but I would have had pity on the kid in the wheel car so Sean would have got introuble regardless because of his bad reputation ,his past.
2. Sean commented that people will see it "wrong" what does that mean and is this true?
-It means that maybe people saw it wrong maybe they saw when they were on the ground and sean trying to get free by punching and shoving and not when David punched him and pushed him down the stairs(Ramp).Or maybe they will try and get Sean in trouble for what he has done last year.
why do you think david was innocent.
DeleteHow do you know if you would bring David (the kid on the wheelchair) to the office? Can you prove that?? What proof do you have. Just saying :/ Imagine If you saw that Sean fighting with a boy on a wheelchair who looks innocent. Yeah, I know that you would feel pity but being realistic, would you really bring David to your office??
DeleteBecause hes in a wheel chair you would have sympathy towards him too but i would stil bring him in the office for an investigation
DeleteWould you treat Sean the same way if he was in a wheel chair and he was in previous fights?
Deleteif you seen how daivid punched sean, your prespective would have changed.
Deleteand Yes Abigail i would bring David into my office
DeleteRajveer yes it would have
DeleteOkay. So let's say that you bring both Sean and David into your office, and listen to both sides of the story. What if David's side of the story is totally different or totally opposite of Sean's side of the story? And if you ask witnesses, what if the numbers are even? What else would you do to find more evidence and support to your investigation?
Delete1)I would haw done about the same thing as Mcculley .Beacuase if i saw a kid in a wheel chair and his wheel chair a cople meters away with a kid who has a reputation of fight on top of him wresaling i would think the same thing but... I would at least give sean a chance i would investigate and ask evrey one seans friends and ross himeself for good meausures.
ReplyDelete2)When sean said people saw it wrong maybe he means that people came before ross attack sean with the punch and only saw the wreasling. And maybe because sean was on top of him people might think that sean is beating him up and ross is just protecting himself. So the few bystanders who see the fight might see it at a angle where it looks like sean is on top of him beating the barnicls out of him. Maybe thats what he means by people saw it wrong
QUESTION 1: In real the real world, I would have done exactly what MR.McCulley did. This is because Sean's reputation has been unpleasant for a year now and, it is hard to believe that Sean has changed after seeing that a wheel chair guy and Sean were fighting, and especially on the first day of school. As well it would not be believable it Sean would have said, a wheel chair guy was fighting with me and I didn't get a chance to punch back. Also all Mr. McCulley had seen was them rolling around and, it was obvious that everthing will be blamed on Sean. I would investigated the fight just as Mr. McCulley did, though I would have asked more than just 6 students.
ReplyDeleteIf more students said Sean didn't beat up David, would you still blame Sean or believe the students?
DeleteWell I won't really believe the students, and still give Sean the punishment he deserves.
Delete1. I would of responded just like Mr.McCully because I just came and saw Sean on David. Frist I would blame Sean because David is in a well chair. Then I would take both of them in my office and asked both of them what happen then I would of asked the eyewitnesses what happened.Then who I find who started it he will be in trouble.
ReplyDeletebut how would you know there both not lying?
DeleteIf I was in the same position as mr McCulley I would do the same thing scream at Sean and put him in my office because of the way he had saw the fight that was the appropriate thing for him to do. There's not really another way to react to the situation when you see a person all over a kid in a wheel chair while there sliding down a ramp
ReplyDeletebut wouldnt you ask the kid in the wheel chair what happened? Wouldnt you want more evidence ? i know i would just to be reasonable to give Sean a chance , its only fair.
DeleteI can understand but why dont u investigate maybe he was innocent and hes telling the truth have u thought of that?
DeleteI would investgate but not at that moment because the just had a scuffle maybe they are too frustrated to talk so that's why I would take Sean into my office if i was mr mccully and i knew how Sean was I'd talk to him first and see his excuse if its resonable or not which it won't be
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DeleteThe you should have said that in your post so we dont wonder why you diddnt investigat
DeleteBut if you dodnt investigate at that moment you may make a grave mistake because your making the innocent feel like the criminal and the criminal like and innocent, isnt that wrong not to investigate at that moment?
DeleteNo because they are heated up that is the worst to ask what happen you take one cool em down and then ask
Deletebut whit out knowing the entire story he couldn't have suspended him.
DeleteThen u should have said that in your post
DeleteEric but I did investgate I took Sean into my room and yelled at him then he told me what happen and I gave him a fighting chance by asking the students like he requested
DeleteI still would know the story b,ecause I'd take them one at a time you see the worst thing to do is to take them into my class at the same time
DeleteNAW! If you did then You Should put it in with the rest of your post so we know the whole story instead of telling us bit by bit
DeleteIf I said everything like that at once you guys wouldn't reply and I wouldn't have a chance to prove you wrong. Plus I want to keep it short and on point.
DeleteQ2= I think what Sean was trying to say that students might have come late and say the part when Sean and David were falling on each other, Or there were tree's or bushes that were blocking the path to see what was happening and they only saw when Sean and David where falling, Or that the students told there friends what happened and they might of the story wrong.
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Delete2. When Sean commented people will see it in the wrong way he must of meant that most people wouldn't think the kid in the wheel chair started it because he is disabled and it seems more believable if the non -disabled person started the fight rather then a kid in a wheel chair
ReplyDeletewell I agree with the talk that we had had yesterday but if I see two people one who is always in trouble and fights alot meaning Sean, and the other guy who is new and he is in a wheel chair.I would blame Sean and punish him because what harm can I guy in a wheel chair do so yeah I would blame Sean if I was in Mr.Mccully place
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ReplyDeleteI'm not going to lie; if the story had not been told by Sean, and I saw a guy who had a background of getting into fights, fighting another kid in a wheelchair, I probably would have assumed the same thing as Mr.McCulley. Although, I'd find it strange that someone, even a kid who fights an awful lot, would tackle a kid in a wheelchair. That is if I am a student who witnessed the fight. If I were Mr.McCulley, I'd probably also be outraged at how he had started yet another fight, before school had even started, and after the promise he made last year. I'd throw him into the office (not literally) and suspend him for a few days. Although, when someone begs or pleads I usually find myself forgiving them. I think my reaction would be VERY similar to Mr. McCulley's.
ReplyDeleteI think what Sean means by people might see things 'wrong', he mean they might have come and witnessed something that looked like something else. Something along the lines of "it's not what it looks like!" Would fit here. People could come at the wrong time, only to witness, as Sean mentioned, him 'tackling' the boy in the wheelchair, AKA David. Maybe even people from the beginning saw Sean talking with hostility and, depending on the angle, couldn't see who threw the first punch and kind of figured it was Sean. Those people would go around the school first period and tell their friends, and so, more people would accuse him of being guilty. Since 4 people saw that Sean had started everything, I'm guessing this is how they found Sean responsible for the fight.
On an unrelated note, I just wanted to say that I'm pretty sure that David, the wheelchair boy, probably got into a lot of fights, but wasn't held responsible for them because of his wheelchair. The teachers would probably think that everyone who fought with him was just picking on him because he didn't have a working pair of legs.
1 I would have done what mcculley did, Sean with a horrible reputation, and new kid that is on a wheel chair. I think it is pretty clear who's fault this, we only blamed mcculley was wrong because we knew the truth, as investigator do they get the story from both sides.in this case mcculley did only get the story from one perspective. I would have done the exact same thing. By Sean description none really knew what happened, except for Sean and David. My perspective would have been Sean pushing David down the ramp. So I would have thought Sean was picking on him.
ReplyDelete2 when Sean blocked David on the ramp, Sean looked down at David. Scott thought Sean was picking on David, and Sean commented “he is in a wheel chair”. Scott had taken him wrong and thought he was picking on him. That was example, Scott who was right in front of them both had seen everything wrong, and so I think everyone probably would have. No one really saw who did it. Like Scott miss took it, he probably thought everyone so he stated “what are people see it wrong”.
I agree with your first statement. If we hadn't known the story in Sean's POV, we probably would have blamed him entirely.
DeleteThough I agree with your first statement, I don't understand your second one. You think Scott saw everything but took it wrong? Or didn't see anything? I don't understand...
2 yea Sean is right a lot of people saw the fight all from different point of views meaning from each person the story alters. In the book 2 people said .he was telling the truth two people said he wasn't and others said they don't know. It depends when you saw the fight and how they we're being it
ReplyDeleteBut what if you saw the fight from the middle ? Most would think Sean started it wouldn't you ?
Delete2. What Sean most likely meant was usually when fights start. There is always that "mini crowd" that's there from the beginning, which usually consists of 4-5 people. But then the crowd starts to increase, pushing more people to the back. Some people might have coming when David and Sean where both on the floor. Different people, probably got a different point of view. The more later the people came, the more brutal the fight got. The people who seen the fight from start to finish, have a different perspective. Rather then, the people who came half way of near the end have another totally different perspective. So over all Sean was talking about perspective, and how different people have different perspective depending on what time they came
ReplyDeleteQuestion 2: I think that what Sean meant by people will see it "wrong" was that people would think that David was an innocent person. If people thought that David was an innocent person, they would have blamed everything on Sean.
ReplyDeleteWhat Sean said was true. Sean was the one who didn`t do anything, but is getting in trouble for whatever David had done. People are still not going to believe Sean because David looks like a guy ho would not do anything bad because he is in the wheelchair.
well what about the people that have seen the whole fight and know that Sean is innocent? Why aren't they helping Sean and saying thst he is INNOCENT?
DeleteThe people that would have seen the whole fight may not want the vice principal to know that David started it. People would still think that Sean deserves to get in trouble, which is not right.
Deletewell what if you were one of the students who saw the fight would you or would you not help Sean???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
DeleteI would help Sean because he is not the one that is supposed to be getting in trouble. If David started it, he should get in trouble!
Deletewell if you were Sean how would you feel getting in trouble on the first day of school when its not even your fault?????//
Deleteof course I would feel bad
DeleteOK, though why did Scott not help Sean?
DeleteMcCulley may haven`t asked Scott. plus, McCulley wouldn`t believe Scott because even he used to get in trouble a lot n the previous year.
DeleteQUESTION 2: It was said in the book that people may have seen it wrong, I think that means most people would have thought that Sean started the fight. Since people may remember Sean as a guy who is always involved in fights from his past school year, and David couldn't really walk, the only reasonable opinions for the students would have been; Sean started it or we have no idea. The students might also have seen it wrong by coming late while Sean and David were rolling on the ground. Half of the students may have not seen that Sean was pushed. They might have thought David was thrown on the ground by Sean.
ReplyDeleteAs far as I know, Scott was the only student that had seen what actually happened. Seeing it wrong as well means that people gave their opinions by judging Sean's reputation.
2.When Sean said "people will see it wrong" its means that some people came and saw the fight when Sean was on David and the would of blamed Sean even when they didnt see who started it.Puls people would of blamed Sean form the beginning because he had been in lost of fights before.
ReplyDeleteThat is true that is why the vice didn't give Sean much of a chance because its all the same for him
DeleteI don't agree with your comment because half of the school saw the fight and there were so many witnesses
DeleteMr. Mccully asked 6 and 2 were confuse 2 were on Sean side and 2 were on David side then then how did Mr. Mccully blame Sean because he had same # of witnesses as David.
What happen of giving him a fresh start?
Deletethats what i am talking about maybe mccully just hates him and always blames him.
DeleteThat is what I will do to because a disable person in a wheelchair cant really like do anything but really Sean started it Because David came and was staring at Sean and then Sean was saying "What are you looking at", Then David makes him fall and David starts to punish Sean so many times then the wheel chair tips over and they fall, Then they start tumbling down until they stopped and then Sean was stuck and he was trying to punch David but David was still punching Sean and then Mr.McCully comes and breaks everything.
ReplyDelete1. I think I would have a response similar to Mr McCulley because based on the year before, Sean was always seen fighting and that kind of affected his reputation towards the school but on the other hand, David has no impression on anyone except Sean (who in this situation is not believed to) thereore, its usually the way that people naturally rely on others' reputation in a situation where they need to find out the truth without seeing it. Also, David could've gotten himself into some trouble as well but as common human nature, anyone would feel pity on him because of his wheelchair. I know I'd behave this way because I tend to use people's reputation when needed to involve some gruop work and check if they are compatible with all the other group members or not.
ReplyDelete2. I believe that what Sean said is true about people seeing the situation "wrong" because first of all, middle school students often gather up when kids are fighting so all the students who were the bystanders of the fight, didn't know what actually started it (Sean bumping into David) and second is the fact that the students all viewed from Mr McCulley's perspective (feeling pity for handicapped David and blaming Sean for fighting with a "poor innocent new kid"). Basically how I understand it is that Sean knows that no one saw David scolding Sean for "not watching where he's going" so nobody can say Sean is inncoent except Scott who turns out to have a pretty bad reputation as well.
So should Sean be judged by his reputation from last year? why or why not? give an example from the text.
DeleteYes because when Sean says he didn't start it, Mr McCulley asks him why should i believe you when you often took trips to my office from fights last year so he does rely on Sean's reputation.
DeleteDo you think that Sean should have got the punishment he got? why or why not?
Delete#1 If I was in Mr Mculley's position I think I might act in a similar way, given his point of view his judging Sean from the past and that's not really wrong, is it? It's something we all do subconsciously in real life and just because we're looking at the situation from a different perspective doesn't neccesaraly mean we're right. Think about like this were all looking at the book from our point of view, but if the same situation were to take place in real life we would act in a similar behaviour to Principal Mculley
ReplyDeleteWhat if you were in Sean's shoes wouldn't you have some kind of self defence ?
DeleteNot really, I say that based on the fact that the other kid couldn't walk and the principal came at the end of the fight when David was out of his wheelchair on the floor rolling with no chance of standing up, which made Sean look really bad.
Delete1.If I was McCulley I would've gotten really angry because why would you fight with a boy who has no legs.I would've done the same thing McCulley did.McCulley came outside when Sean was on David ,since Sean always in fights McCulley must've thought Sean is the culprit.
ReplyDelete2.I think Sean is right because maybe students arriving to school caught a glimpse of the fight and thought Sean was the culprit because he was in a bunch of fights last year .Also since David was in a wheel chair students would take pity for him.
If you were Sean and you looked very guilty what would you do in that situation? How would you explain to Principal Mculley
DeleteArvind if you were David would you be honest and courageous enough to tell Mr.McCulley that you started the fight or would you try to save yourself from the issue?
DeleteWell Gurvir I would've told Mr.McClulley the truth because I'm pretty sure he would judge me of my my past.
Delete2)by Sean saying "maybe they saw it wrong".
ReplyDeletei think he meant that what if the witnesses saw the fight wrong what if punching and the shoving that Sean was to doing to David was to protect himself but people thought he was fighting him and what if the kids thought that Sean always fight so they blamed him. because they thought Sean doesn't care if he is in trouble so they just blamed him.
I think that he means that people saw only half of it. Remember when Sean got mad at David and could have done something that could have made him even more introuble but then Scott stoped him. Maybe some of the people only saw that and then they left, that is why they all think that it is Sean that did all this.
ReplyDelete1.I think Mr.McCulley and I would have acted the same way. Seeing a new student who is disabled and on a wheelchair starting a fight is not very believable. I would feel bad for David. Looking at Sean's bleading knuckles and thinking about Sean's bad reputation from his past, I would think it was Sean who started the fight. Even though Mr.McCulley promised a "Fresh Start" for Sean, consiquences must still be given to him.
ReplyDeleteBut wouldnt you ask David after what exactly happened? For more evidence in your invesigation?
DeleteBut I still gave Sean a chance. Mr.McCulley asked other students for evidence, but majority of the students said that it was Sean who started the fight. If I were Mr.McCulley I wouldn't have to ask David. I saw the ending of the fight, and I also gave Sean a chance by asking the students who witnessed the situation what happened in the beginning of the fight. I think that would be enough evidence in my investigation. For what Mr.McCulley saw and investigated, the case is clear and almost proves that Sean is guilty (even though Sean is actually innocent)
Delete#2 When Sean commented that people might see it wrong,I think he's right,when he said that. I think he meant people might have Sean grabbing David's shirt or David on the floor with blood on Sean's knuckles. David was also in a wheelchair which made a pretty big difference with the investagation and Sean has a history of losing his temper
ReplyDeleteIf I saw both of them on the ground fighting I wouldn't jump to conclusions like that. I would have took them both in the office and discussed what happened. If both of them gave me different answers then that's when I would start investigating. Just because the one boy was in the wheel chair. I'm not going to automaticity assume that the boy in the wheel chair is correct. I'm going to ask the people who saw it from the beginning rather then in the end to make sure that they never saw them fighting each other at the wrong time. Then from there I would gather all the information at decide who gets suspended. The second question (2). I believe that this is t
ReplyDeleteBut William in the story no students actually saw them start fighting from the beginning. So how will you solve the problem of who started the issue with proof?
DeleteMr.McCully should really ask David what happened and more students, also he should see Davids past to see if he is a bad student or a good student.
ReplyDelete2. Sean commented and said that people might have seen the fight wrong. I agree with Sean. If I were in Sean's position,I would think the exact same. Sean ment to say: What if people came at the wrong time? What if they didn't see the beginning part of the fight where David started punching? What happens when Mr.McCulley asks the wrong students who weren't witnessing the entire fight? I think Sean is completly right about this and it would be "unfair' if Mr.McCulley asked the wrong students who weren't there the entire fight.
ReplyDelete1. I think I would have reacted the same way as Mr. McCulley because if I was in the principal's place I would judge the mistake that Sean did based on his last year performance in school. That's the exact same thing Mr.McCulley did, but Mr.McCulley was nice enough to not make a really big issue of the problem and gave him a small punishment for what he did even though he was not the one who started the issue. If Sean would had moved out of the way with making a big fuss of the problem this issue wouldn't have started. Although David is equally responsible for what happened, Mr.McCulley gave David a chance because first he is new to the school and second he is handicapped. In which Mr.McCulley showed kindness and caring, which is what I would have done too. To be honest I think everyone is right in thier on shoes it's just in which point of view we look at it.This is because when we are answering this question we are looking at the point of view of Mr.McCulley, but if we were looking at this questionin David's or Sean's point of view our response would be differnt.In this situation Mr.McCulley's solution is vaild.
ReplyDelete2. The comment Sean had made that people will see it "wrong" means the other student looked at them fighting at the wrong time and wrong angle. That's because when David came and said move to Sean in a rude way, the other student didn't pay attention. The students only started to pay attention when Sean was punched and was holding David's hand so he won't backfire again while they were going down the wheel chair ramp. If you would see that in a student's point of view it looked like Sean pushed David down the wheelchair ramp and they started to wrestle on the grass. The student would respond to the principal exactly what they saw even though it is not exactly true, but the principal would still trust the other students because the majority of the students are saying the same. That's why the other two students were confused on what exactly happened. That's what SEan meant when he said that people saw it wrong.
This is true. From what I know of the story is that mr mrculley came at wrong moment. Therefore accusing Sean for no really good reason. Same goes for the students they came at the wrong moment giving mr mrculley the wrong answer. Therefore again. What he said is true.
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ReplyDeleteI think I would have reacted the same way as Mr.McCulley, Mr.McCulley quickly assumed Sean started the fight because of all the things Sean did last year and because David is in a wheelchair he thought David would be the innocent one even though he did start the fight.One thing I would have done that Mr.McCulley did not was question David too because Mr.McCulley only question 6 students 2 of them had the same story as Sean but the other 4 only seen Sean on top of David Mr.McCulley got their side of the story puls Sean's but not get David's side.
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ReplyDeleteWhen Sean said students could have seen it wrong I think he means that they could have only seen Sean on top of David and rolling around on the ground with David which could have made it look like Sean was hitting David and it is true because other students could have came at. the wrong time and only some parts of the fight.
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