Creativity
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Check out this video on Creativity by Ken Robinson
This video is challenging the role of education and the need for reform!
1. Do you agree or Disagree with the arguments he makes? be specific and make connections from BHJMS.
2. How could you apply any of the suggestions he makes at BHJMS?
3. How did you like video? The style it was shot in to grab your attention
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My class used this video as an inspiration for making their own RSA video's ! some were amazing but others struggled and some never got finished. It was the most challenging video production from last year. (ill show you some of the finished and unfinished projects)
We are going to make a RSA video like this - the questions will be in regards to what subject
I do agree with the arguments he made because study we'll, work hard, collage, job. Because you are suppose to study well so then you can know what you are suppose to be doing and then work hard and put in extra work so then you can get extra marks. get in collage study well and work hard and get a job that that is mosly what he was talking about also about academic and non academic people and that academic people are smart and they can get good jobs and non academic they could get a job but not that good like the academic students. Like in beaumonde heights you are suppose to study well then work hard after get in a collage or university then get a job.
ReplyDelete2) The suggestions I would make to beaumonde heights is to study well, work hard, collage or university, job just like in the video he was talking about that if you study well, work hard you can get in college or university and then get a job.
ReplyDelete1. Personally I do not under stand the argument made but on what I did understand, I do agree with. I did understand the ADHD comment he made. He mentioned something about how kids shouldn't be drugged as if its a regular thing. As well as how the east coast is more "prescribed to it". You shouldn't us (the children) through education by anaesthetising them. As RSA mentioned, you should be waking then up to what they have inside rather then putting closing it.
ReplyDeleteI also agree with the statement of how we should not separate by age group, you could at least have a range. RSA did make a realistic statement about how everyone is different, some are well behaved and focused when others aren't. Everyone is different.
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DeleteSince I now get the point he is trying to make, I disagree. School can't necessarily "kill" creativity , nothing can in my opinion."Creativity is a natural extension of our enthusiasm" Earl Nightingale, school basically is the education system, you just need to be taught stuff. School has its moment of creativity every now and then (the dance we are currently doing in music). Choreographing a dance needs some creativity. School doesn't need to have creativity, it's good to include it. People are acting as if school is the only place where creativity is shown. In my journal prompt I mentioned how us being enthusiastic leads to being happy; think-y; creative. It is NOT the school(s) job to teach us creativity, nor kill it. It's the students job to be creative, it's not the schools. If you look up "creativity" you'd come out with .....the ability to transcend traditional ideas, rules, patterns, relationships, or the like, and to create meaningful new ideas, forms, methods, interpretations, etc.; originality, progressiveness, or imagination. It doesn't mention anything about school or how it happens at school. Therefore you cannot crush someone's creativity, and school has nothing to do with it. Therefore I totally disagree with Ken Robinson, he had some decent points but creativity and school generally have nothing to do with each other. If anything it all depends on who the person is.
2. The thing RSA said about how the students shouldn't be divided by age. Or if anything they students should be divided by similar behaviour. I personally think that it is unfair to the "OMG lets learn/or I do not mind doing this" people, if you were doing work the "lazy gang" of people would just be slacking off. Put them together, I mean they would have to care about their grade(s)
ReplyDelete(continuation) Understanding his point (although I do not agree). But I still agree with how people should not be divided by age. " Age doesn't define everything" Rochelle's 2nd response (question 2) which is totally agreeable. You could have a genius little kid. Take "Dextar's Lab" which is based on a mega mind science genius toddler. What if that was real? You can't keep him with other toddlers who are just learning the alphabet. It wouldn't work out. Once again Age isn't everything, everyone is different. Its nearly impossible to have a duplicate of someone, twins may look alike but they are different.
Delete1. I do agree with the author. I agree that creativity is being destroyed. now a days people are trying to make future but are using the past.
ReplyDeleteMr.Cheney said that when we do art and l.a. we are more creative doing LA than in art. this is because when we are doing our art we are following instructions, but when we are doing our LA our minds are free what ever to write about (of course there's a topic but we are FREE to write about what we want to connect the topic with)
Do you agree with the ADHD comment?
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Delete3) I liked the video because it was well organized with many facts and examples, also he was talking about what he was drawing and he was trying to make other people understand about creativity and about academic and non academic people, even about study well, work hard, collage, job. Then at the end he showed everything he talked about zoomed out and ended the video then it showed that download the RSA app and everything like that and the way he did it was pretty cool so those are the reasons for me why I liked this video.
ReplyDeleteBut did you enjoy the video because everyone that was watching it was becoming sleepy and all said that it was boring. You said that you like the video only because of the pictures and creativity.
DeleteBut we're you engaged in the video ( I don't think so).
It was boring but he gave lots of information about how school is destroying creativity and all that so for me yes it was boring but know I know how schools are destroying creativity thanks to the video.
DeleteAudio wise did you like it? If you were to take away the visuals?
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ReplyDeleteI agree with some of the arguments that Ken made. ADHD seems to be a predicament for students with all of the distractions given from the internet, technology, and social lives. Its difficult to focus on school work and education, when non-academic students glare and are glued to these distractions. Well, if someone finds something more interesting than something else, they would obviously go for the thing they are more interested in. Kids now days are interested in the new technologies so why bother with school, homework and education? This is one of the points i agree with.Something Ken didnt talk about was how creativity doesn't have to be on just one subject. creativity is what YOUR ideas are, and how you look at things different from another.Just like our Rebound projects, If you are creative in art, it doesn't mean that you cant be creative in your Language. You can combine your art with your language and that will create a whole new level of creativity for you. I made a graffiti wall for my project and it is a Language and reading based project, though i still combined it with graffiti and art too further show my creativity.
ReplyDeleteWhat I we use IPhones/IPods/IPads we use during class, like this blog itself.
Deletelets not forget the Flappy Bird incident and how students quickly rush their work to do the things they enjoy doing... :/
DeleteWell that is true I agree with Tamana
DeleteI agree tamana but when else has this happen?
DeleteThis is only happening because of the game. Other wise students have never tried to rush their work to play a game!
flappy birds at one point will die :) but once again what about this blog? It gives the chance for people to speak up! personally I wouldn't share my thought in front of the class. #timid
DeleteAnd by the way was language was combined with creativity. Do you think it is the schools have to teach you "creativity"?
Delete3. The visuals of the video was good and kept me entertained, but it was a little "wordy" audio wise. There was some points where I did not understand, either he was talking to fast or the accent (unlikely). And maybe if RSA re-worded it, I don't know what the main point to this was, I understand some of the counter arguments but not 100%.
ReplyDelete2. i think that we should think about how the students shouldn't be divided by age. Or if anything they students should be divided by similar behaviour.
ReplyDeleteadding lazy students with smart and academic students might be useful. the lazy kids might work like the smart kids but maybe they will also make the smart kids lazy!!!!
The video was too confusing and wordy I would recommend that the author should stick to his point.
DeleteI LOVED the animations but not quite the topic.
1. I disagree with this argument because I feel that our society can actually learn at its rate right now. The person arguing makes some pretty good points that education in our generation is like, giving students an anethsia shot (That drug used during operations). That is true that, our education should be lighten up more, but what I honestly disagree is that splitting students into catorgories such as Academic and Non Academic. I mean it might disencourage an Non Academic to not engage at school, but with encouragement from teachers , parents etc, These students can actually put more effort into their education in general. In other words, Splitting students into these types of groupes actually encourage us students to work harder. Relating to BHJMS, There are many students that aren`t really proud of their achievements and average. This encourages many students to really put more effort into their work to be at grade level.
ReplyDeleteI do agree with the statements he makes well the ones I understand.As RSA said you should wake your kids up and see what they have inside them, and what they are interested in ,not medicate them like its a regular thing.i really didn't get the ADHD thing but the part about how the east coast is more prescribed its a good debate. I agree that why do we put kids with batches and we put them by age its really interesting.the statement about everyone being different I true and I agree wih Rsa
ReplyDeleteDo you think school "kills" creativity?
Deleteto be real and say the truth i disliked the video. it wasn't very engaging. but the animations were great thats all that kept me up to watch it.
ReplyDeletethe angles and idea was good but the topic wasn't exactly great.
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ReplyDelete3. I enjoyed the video ! the animations kept me very engaged ! It was very artistic and i liked that about it . The videos animations and lay out was AWESOME ! But i didn't like the topic very much . It had too much points , it had a lot of meaning ! but it was just a bit confusing .
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ReplyDelete1) I totally agree with this video; it’s not about creativity it’s about ideas that has values, divergent thinking! And I also agree with thinking over human capacity and getting rid of the old conceptions of academic and non- academic. And I also believe that collaboration is the stuff of growth, great learning’s happen in groups. If we judge each by individual, we form a kind of disjunction of between one and their natural learning. In BHJMS we do group work and I find it great for learning, its creative and at the same time it has values.
ReplyDelete3.I Believe that the illustration and art was brilliant. I think the video overall was very well put together and obviously took an extensive amount of time to draw and put together. The outcome was excellent in my honest opinion. The points in the video however were somehow scattered and can be debated upon. He has way too many points mentioned in the video and i believe he should just focus on the point of the video which was about creativity. Overall the video was an excellent way of showing his opinion to the world. Especially with the amazing illustrations that instantaneously grasp peoples attentions.
ReplyDelete2) I disagree with the person arguing, but if I were to apply one thing in the video for BHJMS, I would add his main points about ADHD and the anesthesia. I agree that School should have more lively moments and activity to get more students engaged. The ADHD situation is really not necessary because students are falsely getting diagnosed with ADHD. While in Reality, These students just learn differently as visual, technical,musical and etc
ReplyDelete1. Yes I do agree with most statements he said . School does kill creativity , they tell you to be creative but then they give you a set of rules to follow ! What is so creative about that?
ReplyDeleteIt seems like school has now just become about getting a good mark instead of learning . People are now marked and taught a certain way , it seems like the things you are good at are excluded because you only focus on the math , the language and ECT. Not everyone could learn a certain way .
School kills our creativity they can't lock up our creativity , gives us rules than expect us to be creative .
1. I agree with most of his arguments of how the education systems separates the children that can't afford learning from others. It says in the video that many people think that the poor don't have the capability of learning, which gives them no chance of creativity. I agree with his statements about the ADHD, work hard➡️Do well➡️Collage➡️Job. But he also mentioned that children divided by grades isn't right. He is right with his justification as how small kids can be really smart and etc. but putting children of different ages in 1 class, is almost a cahows. It's true same age doesn't mean same Youngers aren't smart. But still age difference also has the difference of the ability to learn. As an example grade 1 students may not be able to handle the work of a grade 5 students. So his arguments are right but this one, I disagree with.
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ReplyDeleteSince I now get the point he is trying to make, I disagree. School can't necessarily "kill" creativity , nothing can in my opinion."Creativity is a natural extension of our enthusiasm" Earl Nightingale, school basically is the education system, you just need to be taught stuff. School has its moment of creativity every now and then (the dance we are currently doing in music). Choreographing a dance needs some creativity. School doesn't need to have creativity, it's good to include it. People are acting as if school is the only place where creativity is shown. In my journal prompt I mentioned how us being enthusiastic leads to being happy; think-y; creative. It is NOT the school(s) job to teach us creativity, nor kill it. It's the students job to be creative, it's not the schools. If you look up "creativity" you'd come out with ..... (Continues at home)
the ability to transcend traditional ideas, rules, patterns, relationships, or the like, and to create meaningful new ideas, forms, methods, interpretations, etc.; originality, progressiveness, or imagination. It doesn't mention anything about school or how it happens at school. Therefore you cannot crush someone's creativity, and school has nothing to do with it. Therefore I totally disagree with Ken Robinson, he had some decent points but creativity and school generally have nothing to do with each other. If anything it all depends on who the person is.
DeleteYes I do agree with him. School can change or crush your creativity. They just can't just say “Think outside the box.”, then give us a set of rules for us to follow. That not creativity, that are rules try to mode are creativity. And once creativity is trying to be mode it's no longer imagenation.
ReplyDelete1.) I strongly agree with ken because he makes reasonable points and also valid. we experience boredom every single because of doing the same types of task every year over and over. their are also rules placed around us like walls preventing us from having creative thinking and the more you age, the more EDUCATED you get and end up being a boring person and then they crush everybody of their creativity
ReplyDelete1. I somewhat agree with his argumentation. This is because if you listen, you'll find that most things are actually true. Schools are truthfully pumping out batches of children into more and more work as they grow up, usually having their creativity depleting as they grow older. They are forced to study hard, get good marks, and get a good job in order to work even more! Where's the time to let your imagination flourish? Students are pressured to do well in school, giving them no time to let their artistic side shine, be it musical, dramatical, or visual. In BHJMS, we do quite well in encouraging creativity, by having teachers assign original projects in group work~!
ReplyDeleteI agree with Ken's argument. It's true that school (at times) does mess around with everyone's creativity! It's weird how schools make student do things like singing, sports, dancing, etc. But then at the same time they don't let us show our creativity! That's because they want us to do things in a certain way. We have to express ourselves if we want to show our creativity but it's not possible if we have to do something they way someone wants us to. This connects to ADHD. People think that some students have ADHD because they don't listen like everyone else. But it's actually because they don't get to do what they love the most. They don't get to do something that is their passion. There is no point of saying someone has ADHD when you don't even know why the student is like that.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Ken Robinson Robinson has suggested that to engage and succeed, education has to develop on three fronts. First, that it should foster diversity by offering a broad curriculum and encourage individualization of the learning process; Secondly, it should foster curiosity through creative teaching, which depends on the teacher's training and development; And finally, it should focus on awakening creativity that puts less emphasis on standardized testing thereby giving the responsibility for defining the course of education to individual schools and teachers. Robinson emphasizes that we can only succeed if we recognize that education is an organic system, not a mechanical one. Successful school administration is a matter of fostering a helpful climate rather than "command and control. These are the reasons why I agree with Ken Robinson's arguments.
ReplyDelete2. In BHJMS, I hope this doesn't happen often... but, I'd like it if teachers here weren't so easy to blame ADHD as the source of a student's inattentiveness. If adults weren't so quick to dismiss it as a simple sickness and shoved some drugs down the child's throat, they'd realize that maybe, the child was just mistaken, and was only BORED. Give them a period or so to create, imagine, or do something original!
ReplyDelete#1) I agree with most of the points he made because a lot of the things he said made me rethink the way I was taught completely. Like when he said that the current system of education was designed, conceived and structured for a different age it comes to thought that public education is trying to meet the future by doing what they did in the past and Sir Ken Robinson made me believe that’s entirely wrong. I believe he was completely right when he said kids don’t believe the, “Work hard, do well, get a college degree and you will have a good job” story, and their right not to by the way, your better having a degree than not but it's not a guarantee of a good job and especially not if the route to it marginalises most of the things you think are important about yourself. I think this is one of the most important points Sir Ken Robinson made because it ties it back into the whole, “Public education kills creativity” theory.
ReplyDelete3. I LOVED THE VIDEO! So cool! I absolutely cannot wait before we do a similar project, though it will be difficult and time-consuming. What I like about harder projects is the feeling of completing them successfully! I hope we get to do it on whatever we want...! As long as it's meaningful, right? *Sigh* We're probably going to have to do it according to some guidelines... Oh well. This could also be a point of creativity-killing in schools. Getting fun projects, but not doing it the way you want to, or about what you want :/
ReplyDeleteToo many big words though... I barely understood! \(T^T)/
Delete2. Beaumonde shouldn't divide students by only their age . Everyone learns differently , some of us re active learners, musical, mathematical ect . RSA says that school shouldn't only divide students by age , and he is true its not fair that we are taught one way and are expected to learn it even when you cant learn that way. Age doesn't define everything.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the video,Some schools give the students an opportunity to be creative at times like when dances come up they get to decorate the place on there own, But sometimes they make students do stuff step by step and they wouldn't be able to be as creative, Schools don,t provide enough opportunity's to be creative well at least in my eyes,We don't have enough time to be that creative and we have test and exams and quiz's to study for, In life you don't have everything given to you like steps to follow so they should let us be creative to success in life, You have to be able to think on your own and to find the answers,In school they don't really let you read between the lines they focus to much on test, Some teachers don't give you the time to share how you feel about something or what you even think about,
ReplyDeleteI agree with the point that students should open up by themselves. We should let them realize what they have the ability to do. Every one has creativity and talent. But the problem is that they don't know. Creativity is something that can't be learned or taught. The problem is that the education these days wants the kids to be creative, but the way they want them to be. People all around the world have their own culture, talents and creativity. For example: A teacher is teaching her students to draw a flower like this. But instead, what if they tell them to draw a flower. After they are done look at what they drew. This way the kids creativity will go to a higher level. So let the students expand by themselves, help them but don't control them.
ReplyDelete3) To be honest, The RSA video was actually pretty mind grabbing. There was a lot of animation, visuals and exciting features. I think this video was a great way to catch viewers attention especially at our age. The only issue that might make viewers lose attention is the vocabulary being used, and the length time. The vocabulary took me some time to understand, and the length was luring me to not pay attentive. Besides that everything is really great
ReplyDelete#2) I would suggest Beaumonde to let kids be more of themselves rather than being mindless drones doing worksheets all day. I know there’s a lot of disadvatages to letting kids be more free because they might abuse the opportunity, however kids will learn better in a more free environment. If you give a kid a pencil and worksheet all day your stripping them of their imagination, their ingenuity, their creativity. The point is kids will take a chance, even if they don't know they'll have a try at it, they’re not frighten of being wrong. If your not prepared to be wrong you’ll never be original.
ReplyDeleteI do agree with him because allot of people have a diploma or a certificate from their college and when they go and look for a job they think its so easy because they think they will get the job right away but in reality there are hundreds and hundreds of people looking for the same job.school doesn't really ruin your creativity because if the school doesn't allow creativity then the school wold be so dull and boring . The school can't tell students they can't be creative because all students or some students learn differently and I think are school is really creative with all the paintings near the stair cases.Also when teachers give us projects they let us do it any way we want and we can make it as creative as we want but it still has to contain a little information about the subject.If teachers teach you about creativity then that's dumb ,it's a waste of time .the school inspires you to be creative .In our school if you had a project and you just wrote a 5 line paragraph of what you learned your not going to get a great mark because you weren't creative and that's alright not everyone is creative.
ReplyDelete3. The video was very entertaining. I liked the way it was displayed . The Video caught my attention . I liked the sketches it kept me engaged . I didn't like how he put out his information it was a little confusing but other than that the video was very engaging
ReplyDeleteHow was the information he displayed confusing to you?
Delete2.) We can probably apply these suggestions to here at B.H.J.M.S. by helping certain people get to where they want to be in life and in creativity.
ReplyDeleteWith the students here at Beaumonde everyone has different perspectives. So with that we can inspire and help out more with their imagination and use it to help our economy.
#3) I really like the video. The style it was shot in grasped my attention completely. I thought the drawings, the narration and the jokes were great because everything he was saying in the speech had a visual being drawn about it at the exact same time and I thought that was amazing.
ReplyDeleteI don't think it is a major problem BHMJS. Nobody is diagnosed with ADHD and put into behavior classes. The problem that Beaumonde Heights has is rules and regulations and formats to tell you how to do everything and crush our creativity. So that is one thing the school has change. How to do it is gone the students more opportunities and let them feel free to think and think deep deep deep in the box.
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ReplyDelete3) Talking about being creative in the school systems, this video was creative! It was amazing. The drawings were awesome!. It was the one thing that dragged my attention to listening!
ReplyDelete2) I think that getting rid of old the old conceptions about ones academic leaning and don't judge each by its own individual are good suggestions. As I said in my answer to number one; judging each individually causes a disjunction of between one and their natural learning. Thsese two suggestions can help BHJMS alot!
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ReplyDelete1. Do you agree or Disagree with the arguments he makes? be specific and make connections from BHJMS.
- I can agree with his argument I mean yes school does crush our creativity by giving us this image of what we have to do and what we have to be and what it takes to succeed but doing that doesn't allow us to be free and "Think outside the box" because really we are just going deeper inside the box! Everyone thinks alike in school except a few students that have realized this umm trick I would almost say. Our class isn't like that though, in some ways it is but in most ways it isn't because Captain Kirk doesn't exactly do what everyone else does in my opinion. So I agreed with this argument and I don't think anyone at BHJMS has ADHD or that all teachers give us this image of what we have to do to meet "Requirements" but I don't believe anyone has ADHD and has been diagnosed with this "Drug". This video has given me a more understanding and the reality of school and a big part of life, Education. This video made me think of school differently and made me think about what I have been doing for years, and about the "Curriculum". I agree with what Ken Robinson when he says that "Public education kills creativity". This video has really made me realize what we are set up for and what we are basically programmed to think and he is correct in his theory in my opinion. (Apologies if this was confusing to follow)
2. How could you apply any of the suggestions he makes at BHJMS?
ReplyDelete- Well I think if we were to change this I think we should have more freedom in the English we write and we should have more art. Like Musical, Dance and Visual. We should be able to give every type of learner the proper type of education and not give us this image of “Work hard, do well, get a college degree and you will have a good job” because as Ken Robinson and Mr.Cheney said it is false, lies. So we should support creativity in our school with more artistic and creative lessons and tasks and giving each and every learner the teaching they need.(Once again apologies if this was hard to understand it took me a bit to understand the video)
3. How did you like video? The style it was shot in to grab your attention?
ReplyDelete- The RSA video I really enjoyed and I found it a bit difficult to follow but that was because it was alot to consume at once. The video I was drawn too and I personally enjoyed the format and like the post commentary. It was a great informational video but the style they made it in wasn't a boring type of informational, it was an engaging type of informational. So I liked the video and agreed with the theory behind it
ReplyDelete1. Do you agree or Disagree with the arguments he makes? be specific and make connections from BHJMS.
2. How could you apply any of the suggestions he makes at BHJMS?
3. How did you like video? The style it was shot in to grab your attention
1: yes I do agree with ken Robinson, I believe that the educational system does bring a kids potential down and limits their creativity. Like when he said schools are divided into grades, this limits their creativity because they need to stay in their age group, and in Their specific subject. When people in lower grades are performing higher than the ones a grade ahead of then.
If they are doing math in high school, they can only do math, they can not do what they desire, for example there are compulsory credits in high school the students have only a limited number of credits to earn that he or she pleases. “Every child is an artist, the problem is staying an artist when you grow up” – Pablo Picasso
This relates perfectly
2: like mr Cheney says think outside of the box I need to do what I want to do.
But still don't want to flush my education down the toilet, I still need to do what the teachers want me to do. But I will not let them limit my creativity, I will act at a higher level if I can, and still succeed in my desired passion.
3: I love how he presented it. Ehh he used lapse it as well, I have seen many draw my life videos on you tube of many YouTube sensations. It is a very unique, and amusing. One thing is you wont miss anything because it is a visual and we are visual thinkers. The sequence is very creative, lol creative, it is a little different than a chalk board because everything is in sequence and works together to present a topic.
hey mr.Cheney its a good thing you made the kids start R.S.A early this time. :)
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