Quote
of the Day
We
don't see things as they are,
we
see things as we are.
-- Cicero, Philosopher
-- Cicero, Philosopher
1. What does this quote mean? Demonstrate with an example.
2. How does this relate to the last chapter we read in Rebound (the sidewalk fight)? Highlight an example from the book that emphasizes this point.
3. Make personal school connection to this quote
i think this quote means that we dont see things the way they are but how we make them look pr we just see that certain thing depending on what we are going through, so basically in a way we decide on how we want something to look like to us. just like david, maybe the teenagers just looked at him and may said stuff like "oh no i feel bad for that kid, i wonder what happened to him" and maybe that conversation went on and some other one asked his friend how it is that you ride in a wheelchair or something and the other demonstrated it. it doesnt mean they were making fun of david. so since david saw that and he hates being laughed at of course seeing those teenagers look at him so much the most logical thing would be that they were talking about him, so of course david got mad which provoked them. but the thing is we dont 100% know exactly what happened and maybe david just jumped into conclusions so we just have to wait and see.
ReplyDeleteWhat I think this quote means is that we don't see things the way they are happening but we see things the way we want to see them. We sometimes don't like the way things happen and it's difficult for us to comprehend that so we make our own assumptions to justify the situation. We are always adding filters to what originally happened.
ReplyDeleteFor example if I wanted to go sky diving, I would ask for permission first my parents would definitely say that it's too dangerous and show me the odds of what is possible to happen. But I don't want to see things this way. I would see sky diving as a different experience, something out of this world and fun to do! I'd say that it's something new and tell myself that that nothing can go wrong. On the inside I may know that I am risking my life but I don't want to see things that way! I wouldn't want to explain to myself that after this activity I may or may not be in this world anymore (the way things CAN be) but I'd tell myself after doing this I will be more brave and have more courage and nothing will go wrong (the way I want to see things).
Another example would be....if I get into a fight with somebody and I "sorta" know I started it... I wouldn't see things as me starting the fight or having to have a big part in it. I'd see things as the victim started it and it's all his/her fault; not because it's true, but because this is how I want to believe what happened. "We never look beyond our assumptions and what's worse, we have given up trying to meet others; we just meet ourselves."-Muriel Barbery
1. In my opinion, this quote mean that we see things our own way based on our inner thoughts and not what the thing actually is. This is a lot like perspectives; everyone has their own perspective based on their own thinking. We usually think of things our own way and in reality that might not even be the real reason or situation. Based on our lives, we see things differently and because of earlier outcomes we predict this is the same situation and going to end up with the same outcome. Our thoughts reflect the way we see things, therefore everyone views things differently.
ReplyDelete2. Two things that I can easily think of related to Rebound are when in the beginning Mr.McCulley viewed Sean and David’s fight through his own perspective and reflected on what Sean had done in the past which without any justification made him think Sean was at fault. He didn’t bother to know the real situation and David and Sean’s own perspectives but apparently from what he saw, a child in a wheelchair automatically becomes not guilty. I think being in a wheelchair isn’t a permit to do anything you want and not be blamed for your fault because the wheelchair is because of the disability to walk, not the disability to think. David should’ve chosen his actions wisely than becoming over-aggressive and getting right into a fight. The quote perfectly applies to Mr. McCulley as he viewed the situation his way and not what it actually was. From the last chapter, David “thought” the high school students were teasing him and making fun because he, himself is insecure of the disability and thinks people make fun of it. Or since he becomes easily aggressive he might’ve been pissed off at Scott and took out his anger on the students. I personally don’t think the high school students did anything and it must’ve just been David’s way of seeing things as his inner thoughts are.
3. In Grade 5, my friend saw an argument between another friend and I and went around telling everyone we were fighting and spread rumours and we weren’t going to remain friends anymore where as it was NOTHING like that and yet people believed it and later we had lots of questions coming up. The friend who told everyone didn’t even hear the conversation but from what she saw from a distance apparently it was the biggest argument and from there on she added stuff. This is also related to the quote since she didn’t hear our perspectives yet went with that she had thought.
1.I think this quote mean we see things in our own perspective where it is the right perspective. It means someone can see something one way while it is actually another way. An example of this is art, one day you go see a painting. You think this painting is a picture of happiness and someone might think of it as a picture sadness. Someone else might think it is a bunch of scribbles but in reality the author was doing a picture of a rainbow. In this situation, many people interpreted the painting in different way but they didn't see it as it actually was. This is what I think this quote means.
ReplyDelete2. In that sidewalk fight, there was many perspectives. One is Sean's perspective. He think David is crazy for messing with high-school boys. Another perspective was David allegedly saw one of the high school boys. We don't know if that is true or a misunderstanding. In David's perspective, they were making fun of him. The boy who was making fun of Sean and David and his friend who has trying to stop. The perspective of the boy who has trying stop his friend is that his friend shouldn't make fun of David. He either doesn't want his friend to look bad by fighting a handicapped kid or he thinks David has gone through a lot since he is handicapped. The perspective of the kid who was making fun of David and Sean is that David is a brat. He thinks David is brat and has going teach him a lesson even though David is in a wheelchair. The quote mean everyone see stuff differently. David see high school boys messing with him and Sean sees David messing high school boys. One of the high school boy thinks David is a brat and the others thinks his friend shouldn't fight a cripple.
3. One example of the quote is when in Language class, we look at quotes. Some people think the quote means one thing while some people think it means other things. One example is quote we are doing right now. I think it as everybody sees stuff in there own perspective. Someone else might think it means we see people to be the same as us. Lots of people might think different stuff.
about number 2. but about all of the fighting situation, which do you think was the most "important" perspective that caused all of that?
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ReplyDelete1. what I think this quote means is that we see things from our perspective rather than from someone else’s. we each see things in a different way. we build up the situation the way we want to see it, so we change it to the way we want to see it.
An example would be that if I were to go on a cruise, I wouldn’t want to go because I tend to think of the worst things that could happen. But if someone else would’ve gotten the opportunity they would’ve said yes, maybe thinking about how much they could do. I see boats in a bad way, because of titanic, yes I know dumb thing because it sunk in 1912, but boats just make me uncomfortable. But if someone was to go on a cruise they would see it as something positive whereas I would see it negative. Both me and the person see a cruise in a different way.
In my opinion i believe that this quote means that we really do not really see things as they are but what our minds grasp and understand from a what we see, what our visions see, Albert Einstein said once that " the imagination is more powerful than knowledge since imagination can grasp anything and everything while our knowledge only grasps what we understand." so what we observe may be very different from what it really is. for example, we go to the mango jungles of the Philippines and find a water snake, we naturally presume that it is venomous when in realty majority of them are not. at least in the Mango jungles.
ReplyDelete2.this relates to the text because of what David thinks he saw the two highschoolers did, or didn't do. they might have being doing the cat daddy but David only some part of and immediately thought, because of possible incidents from before, that they were making fun of him. A part of the book that would highlight this point would when Sean noticed that the highschoolers were as confused as he was when David called them out. it was that they did not actually know what they did or if they did it at all, or they were some really good actors and played dumb really well enough to trick Sean.
3. a personal connection would be when some friends and i talk, and we do not include a certain person in such talk so they naturally assume that we are taking about them and we are talking trash about them and all of a sudden they start flipping out on us and then they start to trip and want to fight or whatever, or they just get mad at us.
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ReplyDeleteThis relates to the last chapter we read in Rebound connecting the side walk fight scene because although I don't have the facts if the highschoolers mocked David or not, this is what David saw. If they didn't mock David, maybe David had a lot going on in his mind and the high school kids could be in their own world but that's what David "saw". He didn't want to tell himself the truth which can come to say that he isn't being honest with himself but that's besides the point and David spoke accordingly to what he think happened. In David mind the story wen like so... David and Sean are just having their own informing conversation and 2 high school kids are down the end of the side walk mocking David by motioning their hands as if they were in a wheelchair as well. Back to the quote, "we don't see things as they are, we see things as we are" So in his case David added his own filters on top of the original picture because "he sees things as he is".
ReplyDeleteI think this quote means that we don’t like to see the reality of things which is very true. Reality is a very hard thing to face in most situations so we make it look as we want it to look. Say, a family member of yours is sick and you go on making yourself believe that they are going to be fine when you know they are in a terrible condition. If you go on making yourself believe that and one day they aren’t there anymore, it’ll hurt you even more because you went on being hopeful when you knew the real. We’re scared to face reality because we are scared come face to face with sorrow, anger, etc. We don’t want to be anything other than “Okay”, which is why we avoid looking reality in the face as much as possible. Being hopeful helps your mood a lot, but somewhere in you, you know the real… but you’re scared.
so your saying that the quote is reality but don't you think the quote has something to do with the different point of views on a topic??
Delete1: I think that this quote means we see things how we want them to be seen. The definition that I found of this quote is that everyone has different beliefs and they see things according to their beliefs or attitude. (http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/152698/what-does-we-dont-see-things-as-they-are-we-see-them-as-we-are-mean). An example to explain this is that if you want to go to a certain high school but one of your friends tell you no that high school is not good come to this one, but you still think the high school is excellent and you want to go there so you go there instead. You see things like that because you believe that the high school is great and you want to go there.
ReplyDelete2: How this relates to Rebound’s last chapter we read is that David doesn’t like people making fun of him or his wheelchair so maybe if the teens were looking at him he thought they were making fun of him. This relates to the quote because it says ‘we see things as we are’ and David is in a wheelchair and is probably used to people treating him like a little kid or people making fun of him cause of his wheelchair and im not saying the teens did do anything, but if David saw them looking at him or pointing at him he would get mad.
3: I don’t have a personal connection but a personal connection that could be made is that if one of your friends got into a fight at school and when it goes to the principal you are called to say what happened. Now because they are your friend you see the fight that it’s not their fault. When it could have been them who started it all along.
I believe this is related to the idea that each person who sees a thing will see it filtered through their own perceptions. So none of us really see it objectively. Each person sees it with their own beliefs, preconceptions, interpretation, and attitude. For example if you are walking by and see a fight going on there's 2 things that can play out and that is one kid is the victim and the other isn't or vise versa and when you ask who started the fight they will say the other one did and if you where to ask people who where there you would get different answers cause people where there at different times and will say they saw different things.
ReplyDeleteThis relates to the side walk incident because when David saw those guys looking at him he interpreted that's as if they where mocking him but Sean saw that as just a group of guys just having a good time and relaxing. This is because david is self conscious about being in the chair and will take things a bit more personal. Where as Sean isn't in the week chair so he will see things/take things a bit more relaxed.
So I have seen people get into fights all the time and i see things happen all the time and the one that stands out for me was that I was walking down my schools hallway and I see two kids go at each other I knew both of then one was your good student and the other was one who always got into trouble and guess who every one blamed yep the one who gets In trouble. It wasn't after the fact that we all found out that it was the good student and that he stared it. There where some people who said it was the good student but we all blamed the bad student cause we go wlby what we see and know and we saw that it was a good kid versus a bad kid and we saw it through what you can call a filtered window.
Marshall I don't think that that is true where u said that he's in a wheel chair and the he takes things more personal and where it is Sean is not in a wheel chair and he is more relaxed. I don't think in a wheel chair or not in a wheel chair there personality doesn't change.ya David is in a chair he might not like it but I don't think that his personality of just being in a wheel chair would change. I think that if David was not in a wheel chair and if he was in a wheel chair his personality wouldn't change
DeleteI get what your saying but lets look at the facts he doesn't want people to touch his chair and when those guys looked at him he freaked out and this is cause he doesn't want people to think he's weak or that he feels sorry for him and Sean just saw it as a group of guys just having a good time and this I cause Sean has nothing to hide he's not worried about people feeling sorry or people constantly asking him if he needs help this is cause David wants to show that he is a strong Independent person
Delete1) what i think that this quote means is that we assume what we don't know and that we look at it in a way that your getting the wrong understanding.
ReplyDelete2) I can relate this to the hight school students is that they could have possible say "I wonder what happened to him" and one of the hight school students were specifying to David if it was only David there I don't think that they will be needing the action of the wheel chair but since Sean was there and the high school students needed to make the wheelchair action, but I don't even think that was not necessary because if one of them must have said" I wonder what happened to him" there was only one David or Sean but If u see one kid in a wheelchair there is no need to make the mocking of the wheelchair. As to Sean he is standing and nothing is wrong with him. So I think that David must have the wrong understanding because if he did want to start a fight it is possible for the high school students to talk to each other to ask if David needed any help. So he really didn't know what the high school students were saying.
3) I think that this can realate to the quote is by just if a teacher points and say come over here and u assume he/ she is talking about you so right now your going to give attitude to the teacher because you "think" that ur in trouble but you didn't know that the teacher was calling the student that was behind u. U thought that he/she was talking to u but u really didn't know u "assumed". Similarly to David, he could have got the wrong understating of what the high school students were trying to say.
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ReplyDeleteWhat I think this quote means is that when you see something, you see it from a different point of view but when someone else sees it, they see it from a different point of view, so not all of us see things in the same way. We all have different beliefs and attitudes towards what WE see. So basically what this quote means is that when you are describing something, you describe it the way you see it. Example 2 people having the same conversation, but different point of views about the same topic. It just depends on what you have experienced. So we see some things from a different angle than others.
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How this quote relates to Rebound’s last chapter is when David thought that the teenagers were mocking him, maybe they weren’t and they were just talking about something else or how they feel bad for David because he is in a wheelchair, and they might be looking at him too, but David might’ve thought wrong and start to shout at them because he thought that they were mocking him. So David saw it in a different way than Sean and the high school kids did. I agree with Katherine that one of them might have asked how you ride in a wheelchair or something and one of them demonstrating it. David must’ve seen them staring at him so he obviously would’ve thought that they were talking about him. So he didn’t see it as they the teenagers did, he had a different opinion to what he saw. But we aren’t totally sure if they did or did not mock him.
Another example from rebound Is that, when David and Sean got in a fight on the first day, Mr. McCulley saw their fight in his own perspective and also looked back into last year, where Sean caused a lot of trouble, and got into so many fights, so from his point of view Sean started the fight just because he was like that in the past and when Sean denied that he started it, he requested to ask Scott what really happened, but Mr. McCulley didn’t because Scott was and still is like he was last year with Sean. So Mr. McCulley had viewed the situation in a different way than Sean and David.
continuing on from #1. an example would be... the recent stab at nacci. the day it actually happened, we were locked in and people would be searching up what had happened at that school that caused us to stay at our school for a longer period of time. on the news, there hadnt been the exact information out yet, only that a teenager had been stabbed to death. of course some of the following things raced through our minds; the one that died was a black guy in a gang, the reason the guy died was because of a drug problem maybe he was a drug dealer and some problems were caused by the buyer, or even that the victim died because he was going to kill someone and they self- defended themselves, and of course nacci is the worst and most dangerous high school and now we arent going there because we are going to get shot or stabbed. but that was just the way we wanted to see the situation as, the real reason why the boy got killed was because he wanted to break up a fight. he was an innocent good guy and never got into trouble. and the only time he tried to stop a fight, because it seemed like the right thing to do, he was the one who ended up dead.
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ReplyDelete1) I think what this quote means is when you’re trying to teach a child its color you will use a bus, flowers really anything but how will you explain to a person who doesn't get the concept?
Anyways the quote means when you’re trying to explain or describing an idea, picture etc. you will describe it through your point of view and beliefs not the way it is portrayed in others eyes.
Even when two people are having a conversation they will have two different points of view on the same topic. I guess it all depends on what you have experienced.
2) This quote relates so much to rebound specially the side walk fight between David, Sean and the two school kids. David thought that they were making fun of him sitting in the wheel chair but that’s the way that he saw it and he intrepid it. Sean had a totally different point of view so probably for Sean it was like they were just walking by and he didn’t see any signs of the two mocking David.
Another example that this quote relates to rebound is when David goes to school the student and teachers determine that David is stupid just because he’s in a wheelchair but in Sean eyes David is a smart and intelligent person. This just goes to shows that many different people can have so many different views on the same topic.
3) A personal example that I can give is that when you’re doing group work your group mates have different point of views on the topic or even on an idea. Even when we are having fights with your friends ever one has a different point of view on the points that are brought up.
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ReplyDeleteIn the street fight, we saw everything from seans perspective. Sean hadn't seen anything, but david says he had seen them mocking him. Since we don’t know what actually happened we have to build on what sean and david both say. David says that he did see them mocking him. David may have built up the thought that they were mocking him and in his mind because of previous bad experiences. He may have concluded that they were indeed mocking him because in previous years, people might have mocked him. since they may have been the cause david may have seen it like that since thats the way he may have seen this experience and thought automatically back to that.
1) I think this quote means that we don't always see things are they are, we see what we want to see not always as what they are.
ReplyDeleteLike if someone gets into a fight and no one was around him to see it he would still feel like everyone looking at him its a natural feeling
2) This could relate to the last chapter We read of Rebound When David "saw" the 2 high school kids looking at him
David might have saw the kids mock him but maybe they weren't They were very confused of why David was screaming at them and so was Sean so David might have seen them mocking him but it was only in his head maybe he was just "Pissed" at Scott
3) a Person Connection Would be in grade 7 (I think) when I kept on hearing my name from Jamin's Table I'm still not sure if i actually did :\ >:\
but they didn't mention scott at all in that part
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ReplyDeleteI don’t have a personal connection to this quote but a personal connection could be when one of your friend doesn’t tell you something, and tells the other, you suddenly assume that it’s about you because they don’t tell you, or when your friend gets In a fight with someone, you wouldn’t think that your friend started the fight because they are your “friend” and you would think they could NEVER start a fight, so you would see that in a different way (even if your friend started the fight) than the other kid in the fight.
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ReplyDeleteA personal connection I can make to this quote is to last year grade 7, in French class. The quote "we don't see things as they are, we see things as we are" So according to what I think this quote means (we add our own filters to the original shot and tell ourselves how things happened because that's how we want the story to go. So back to my original thought in French class, our class was very talkative and we tended to get into a lot of trouble. The truth behind was that we wouldn't listen to the teacher and just fool around hanging around with our friend not getting work completed, but because we make up our own stories, we wanted see things as the teacher wasn't even teaching a lesson. This is a very accurate example because we would all seem to think this way and make our similar stories knowing that it wasn't the teacher ,it was the students.
1. This quote " we don't see things like they are in reality we see them as we would like it to see it". To me it means something that you imagine in your head or you make its image up in your mind that that's out its going to look and making yourself thing the opposite from the reality because sometimes we don’t the reality or how things come out so we make things up in your mind to make it easier for us. Example- if you move to a new school and it’s your first day you think to yourself that it’s going to be amazing the students, the teachers you make this image up in your mind to make you less nervous. Second example can be meeting someone for the first time and we predict how their personality is or how they look but it doesn't change anything they are going to be the way that they are.
ReplyDelete2. It relates to rebounds last chapter {the sidewalk fight} because in the chapter it says that David saw that the high school kids were mocking him but that’s was in David’s point of view and Sean didn't know what was happening, until David decided to burst out on the high school kids and they were equally shocked as sean was. Maybe the high school kids were talking to each other with action and David saw thought that they were mocking him and he was seeing things like he wanted to make and make his make believe the opposite form reality.
3. You know when you are kids and you and group of your friends are talking and suddenly two of them go to the side to talk and you assume that they are talking about you or one of your other friends but in reality they aren't talking about you because in fact you didn't hear them talking about you or anyone.
1; so the way we see that thing/person is the way we think of that person/thing
ReplyDelete2;this relate to that because David thought that the high school kids were making fun of him so that is the way he saw it
3; i relate this to time when there was a fight at a high school and one boy got killed trying to stop it
can you explain and give an example for number 1
DeleteI think that this quote means that we usuallly just see things from our point of view and how we think things look but we never actually look at things from other points of views and think based on other factors. We never actually think about the ifs and go straight to arguing based on what we think but that is completely wrong, we should also think based on other peoples points of view and also think about whether it was a misunderstanding or not.
ReplyDelete“Humans see what they want to see.”
― Rick Riordan, The Lightning Thief
This quote means that humans always see what they want to but they never actually think about what is actually out there.
For example in the boom rebound Mr Mccully saw the bloody knuckles on Sean's hands and he immediately thought that Sean had punched him because it will be likely that Sean knuckles became bloody because he punched him really hard even if he did not. MrCulley saw it from his point of view and not Sean's. Because what really happened was Sean fell on his knuckles and that's how they began too bleed but mrculley did not look at it from others point of view and missed some of the factors and he forgot about what other things could have made his hands bloody.
I think that this relates with the sidewalk fight because it seems that David saw them posing the wheelchair and very quickly thought that they were mocking him. David didn't think from other perspectives and only considered that it meant that they were mocking him. What if they meant something else and they were actually just practicing for their drama where they had a wheelchair or what if they were just swinging their arms and it was all just a misunderstanding
This has happened in school many times. In grade 7 during french the person sitting next to me was throwing stuff across the room and when the teacher walked in i stood up to go talk to my friend but then the french teacher thought it was me because i was standing up even though i wasn't actually the one who had been throwing stuff across the room. I had looked like i was throwing stuff in the teachers perspective because i was the only one standing up when the teacher walked into the room.
3. a personal connection would be that for example we all know someone that spread rumours and sometimes when they see things, they jump into their own conclusions and the worst of all, they tell other people which tell their friends which tell their friends and everyone suddenly knows within a week. for example, a fight that had occured in previous years maybe grade 5 i think, these group of gossip girls had seen and they told me, my friends and everyone else which made my friends that were fighting look like the "bad ones" when those girls didnt even know what happened they just wanted drama to begin. those friends that were fighting got really mad because rumours were being spread about them so they had to start telling people the truth and that created more drama and just wow. now i know that if you hear something from someone especially if you know they make stuff up and spread rumours just ask the person that actually went through it and find out the truth which is less drama and just better.
ReplyDeleteQ.1 I think that this quote means that we don’t look at something with someone else’s view; we look at it in our own perspective. For example, if someone told me to go camping with them, I would be scared and not go because I would be afraid that animals would come and attack me since it’s a forest, but on the other hand my friend would be so excited and say that there wouldn’t be any bears or other animals that would attack us.
ReplyDeleteQ.2) This quote relates to the last chapter we read, (about the sidewalk fight) because David may have saw something that Sean didn’t see and the led to a fight. It was David’s own perspective when he thought he had seen the high school boys do something but maybe they never even talked about him because even they were confused when David accused them of “mocking” him. When Mrs. Burke was talking to David in a slow and steady voice, she thought that since he was in a wheelchair, he was mentally disabled too because it was her own perspective. She felt that he was mentally disabled because she didn’t know what really happened and so just assumed and started talking to him like that.
Q.3) I don’t have a personal connection but a connection would when David and Sean were fighting on the first day of school. Since David was on a wheelchair, Mr.McCulley was sure that Sean had started the fight and accused him when he was just letting David hit him. It was Mr. McCulley’s point of view that since David was on a wheelchair, he couldn’t start the fight so he accused Sean of it.