- Did the two high school kids do anything to provoke David? David is certain they were mocking him! Sean was shocked and surprised and hadn’t seen anything! The high school kids were equally perplexed and confused! So did anything really happen? Why do you think so, support your position with evidence from the book?
in my opinion nothing really happened its just that they were probably just looking at him and he probably thought they were mocking him because in the book there was nothing that showed that happened except for David him self so it could just be what David just thought
ReplyDeleteWhy do you think he would think that
Deletewhat do u mean nothing happened. David and one of the high school students where going to fight. they didn't fight because the other high school student pulled him away. in the text it said he curled his fist. that's a sign he wanted to fight
DeleteMr Cheney: because i just thought that how i would react if i was in that similar situation and was on a wheel chair and people talking and looking at me at same time you would think that those kids were are taking about me and mocking me wouldn't you
DeleteIsmaeel: and the only reason the fight started was because David talked and why David talked was because probably he thought some think that how there talking about him or something like that, because you look at it the high school kid were as surprised as Sean was and David was the on to curled his fist
i think the high school boys did make fun of David because in the book it says the high school boys did make mock him they were acting like they were in a wheel chair
ReplyDeleteDavid said that's what he saw them do. It was not stated as fact that they did anything
Delete@Hamza if you were in a wheelchair and people were imitating the wheelchair wouldn't you consider that to be mocking you?
DeleteAlso the the book didn't actually say that the boys didn't do anything, it just indicated that Sean had not seen anything that had happened.
and if they were not mocking David why did it have to come down to where David and one of the high school students where going to fight.
DeleteI don't think David is lying because when David confronted them they came off Hostile and if the kids weren't doing anything wrong I don't think they would have react so hostile. I think the kids would have said that they didn't do anything wrong and said sorry of they did anything to offend him because 1 of the kids already felt pity for him he said You can't beat him up the kid's in a wheelchair, Since the High school students came off hostile I think they did do something to offend David.
ReplyDeleteWhy would you say that? If one of the kids felt pity what connection does that make to being hostile? And if they didn't do anything wrong and were acting unfriendly all of a sudden, its possible that they didn't like David's attitude towards them because they didn't do anything. Like if you put yourself in the high schoolers shoes, would you still act all kind and sweet if you are being accused for something you didn't do?
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DeleteWell if on one hand they're feeling pity, do you think they'd be making fun too?
Deletewell they might be by polar, how would we ever know that they are by polar or not, the book does not explain thoroughly
Delete@Ivan, some strangers you meet at a park, you can't know their entire history knowing whether they're bi-polar or not. Plus there's a very rare chance like a bare 10% that both of the high schools students would be bi-polar. There's some things that we should use common sense for and not predict things that are not far in sight.
DeleteIf they were bipolar do you think the high school kids would be as shocked and confused as Sean?
Deletei don't think that the two high school kids were bipolar because as reshmi asked they wouldn't have been as puzzled and confused as Sean was.
Delete@ivan you cant point to someone and say they could be bi-polar. you are giving the two teens a title that wasn't shown in any way. neither of the teens had reacted the way some one who is bi-polar would've.
DeleteFrom what the book stated and from what was said, the high school students didn't do anything to provoke David; but we don't have facts yet because from David's perspective, the high school kids were motioning their hands as if they were also in a wheelchair. Sean didn't see anything and both the high school kids and Sean were confused so my guesses are that they hadn't mocked David. I'd say this because, the text from the narrators position didn't mention anything about the high school kids. David probably just had the urge to blow at somebody for no reason! Maybe he had anger in him that he wanted to take out or maybe it could be that the high school kids weren't even looking at David and Sean but were talking amongst themselves and David flipped the story around!
ReplyDeleteWhy? Im guessing these were the possible situations because for example if somebody talks about you just from a close distance you would hear your name and get into conversation trying to figure what about you is being talked about. Same way maybe the high school students were talking about wheelchair and since David is one he easily spotted the hand motions assuming he is being mocked. Earlier I though that maybe David had anger in him which he wanted to take out, because in the book rebound whenever he would talk about his legs or his situation with Sean, his face would become red Sean could see something disturbing in his eyes!
In the end Im not saying that David's anger arose for no reason, and that Sean punched one of them just like that, Im just saying that the book didn't state the high school kids doing anything; just stated David's perspective.
from the book, the two high school kids did nothing to provoke David but from his perspective, he stated that he saw them mocking him which got him disturbed and commenced the whole "scene". nothing really did happen but David and Sean did get themselves some new enemies, not from the part where David yelled at them but at the part where Sean punched one of the highschoolers. the only main thing that happened was the punching part and the "big kids" being all confused which almost led to Sean getting beat up. nothing did happen this time but if those guys mess with David, he will obviously defend himself and hurt them. Also, if David messes with the highschoolers again, there will be another fight. Although i dont think much will happen to David because hes in a wheelchair and someone will feel bad if they fight a person thats incapacitated, so maybe theyll try to get Sean but he does defend himself. i know Sean will defend himself because in the book he clenched up his fists once again then punched one of the high schoolers, and of course Sean has David so theyre ok.
ReplyDeletethe book is in the eye's of Sean ( in Sean opinion ) so there is a chance that David did see something that Sean did not, if they had a parallax Book (same story but in a different opinion) based on David, they would know how he really really thinks and we would probably also see what set David of all those times and what those high schoolers stated. when David called them out they were dumbfounded by what David was claiming them of doing. They were utterly mystified and that shows that they knew nothing or they were good actors. the only evidence in the text was that David said so. I believe that we can all agree and say that David is slightly unhinged ( gone crazy ) and that we can not take his word to serious.
ReplyDeleteDavid seems really sure that those teens were mocking him, I know that David's temper gets really high really fast, but he wouldn't get mad for absolutely no reason.Also it seemed a little suspicious when the the 2 teens acted really confused . David musty have saw something they were doing.On the other hand, David could have a misunderstanding. After all he got mad at Sean for pushing his chair, so maybe this isn't any different. what David saw could have been wrong, maybe David is just jumping to conclusions.maybe the teens really were confused and didn't know what David was talking about
ReplyDeletewhat do you mean it is a bit suspicious for the teens to be confused?
DeleteWhat if the teens didn't actually do anything wrong and it was just a misunderstanding, in this case being confused about why you were getting yelled for doing nothing wrong makes you suspicious?
Deleteif it was a misunderstanding wouldn't it make sense for the high school student to walk away. i think that they did mock David because if they didnt why would it have to come down to where they where goin to fight
Deletein my opinion we cant really tell if they where mocking David but if the text said that David said they where mocking him just because hes in a wheelchair then i think that they where provoking him. if they weren't it would not have to come down to where they where going to fight. yes something happened but was close enough to not be a physical fight, because like what i said if nothing happened there will be no need where they where going to fight. a curled up fist means he was going to fight. also in the text and by the way Mr.Cheney was talking in the voice of David he was angry because the 2 high school students where "mocking David because hes in a wheelchair. so i do think that something did happened
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion i don't think that the two high school kids were trying to provoke or tease David but just might have been misunderstood. I believe this happened because the two were as perplexed and confused as Sean was and maybe it was just the way that the two were looking at David that ticked him off. I guess when it came to him sitting on the wheelchair David might have been or maybe is over protective and emotion really when he knows that that's not him as a person and he knows that he will walk again. However there's always two sides to every story and maybe there might be one here but if the two high school were really trying to provoke and tease David they would try to fight back and defend themselves and what about Sean he was standing right beside David and he didn't really seen anything that would have ticked David off. I honestly think that the two high school kids weren't trying to tease David but really David just over thought the situation.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, I think David must have been provoked somehow that he gave such an aggressive reaction. Sean might not have seen it since he was too busy trying to understand the project and David walking on his feet again, and the high schools kids were confused and perplexed because seeing his reaction they might have "acted" that they didn't do anything so that he doesn't get more aggressive. It's also possible that David just "thought" he was getting teased and the students might have just been talking about something else or in fact someone else. However, I honestly think that the high school students didn't tease or provoke David because if they had to say anything they would've said it straight up since they wouldn't be scared or anything and pointing from a distance they might even be saying something positive but David just thinks of his condition negatively. Also, when they confronted, the high school students would've just admitted because they wouldn't be afraid of David nor Sean. Also, David might just be very overprotective of his situation and think people feel sorry for him and his disability and he becomes the center of attention just being different. Overall, I think that there are three different perspectives; the high schools students, David’s and Sean being the third person but just knowing the information we got, I don’t think David has been provoked, maybe just misunderstood.
ReplyDelete“Over thinking leads to negative thoughts.”
- Unknown
I think this quote applies to David because he over thinks what others may think of his situation and gets aggressive very fast. He shouldn't be so focused on his disability and focus on his positives and strengths and ignore the haters because people just need a reason to start talking about others and that just should be ignored because there’s no point in wasting time with such people because they can prove you wrong and walk off like nothing ever happened. David is very confident that he will walk on his feet again and that’s the best way to prove to those who think wrong about you and that confidence of yours will kills their words.
I think that the high school students didn't do anything to provoke David because if they were mocking David, they wouldn't be confused like the book described them. It might have been a misunderstanding and David thought that they were mocking him. I don't think anything happened until Sean punched one of the high-school students in the face and as Katherine said, they just made new enemies for something that might not have happened.
ReplyDeleteI don’t think the high school kids proved, because if they did they would be saying something but in David point of view it shows that they did mock him but maybe they were talking to each other and with actions and to David it looked like they were mocking him and then when David started screaming, both high school kids and Sean were shocked. It was David’s misunderstanding since Sean didn’t see anything or David just wanted to take his anger out since they were {David & Sean} talking about his leg and he was having flashback about the past and it made him angry and he decided to take his anger out on them. The high schoolers were shocked when David started blaming them and that can be that they weren’t mocking him and if they were then to get out of the situation they were playing dumb and unaware of what was David talking about.
ReplyDeleteI don’t think the high school kids were doing anything to provoke David. Maybe they were just talking with actions because they were so shocked when David started to scream at them. David must have misunderstood them because Sean didn’t see anything and since the high school kids were walking behind them, I’m not sure how David saw them mocking him and even if they were walking in front of David and Sean, Sean would’ve seen them mocking David but Sean didn’t see anything. Maybe David was just lost and started screaming even though nothing happened. David was probably just thinking that they WERE mocking him, but if they were then maybe they would’ve stated that in the book, and every time David talked about standing up again, his face gets red sometimes so maybe he just wanted to take his anger out on someone and he chose the high school kids. So David probably thought wrong (the high school kids were mocking him) and was just gone a little crazy because I don’t think Sean believed his story that he was going to get up on his feet again. So in my opinion, I don’t think the high school kids were mocking or teasing David, maybe they just wanted to fight because they didn’t like David’s attitude towards. So nothing basically happened before Sean punched one of the guys in the face and I agree with Katherine that they made new enemies for something that might not even have happened.
ReplyDeleteIn the book, nothing was said about them mocking David, but David exclaims they were. I don’t think that we have a say in this situation. Since we don’t get David’s perspective it’s difficult to understand where he is coming from. As said, we do not know if it really happened, David’s reaction maybe leads to something. Sean explains before that David had this look in his eye, and before Sean and David met the teens they talked about nerve regeneration. The topic may have triggered something for David which led to his outbreak. It may have been something in the previous years as David had just recently moved into the area. Maybe it was something that had happened in grade six or seven. But we all know David for his temper. Just as it is said in the book David claims that they were but the book is from Sean’s perspective. As we don’t know what actually happened we can only assume that either they were mocking David with hand motions or David is seeing things. To sum this up I don’t think the teens did anything to provoke David, maybe something triggered a moment which lead to the cause of his outbreak.
ReplyDeleteWhat makes you say that maybe the teens didn't mock him? I understand how you support that David's memory might be triggered from something that happened in the previous years, but are you strong with saying that you are positive that this situation had nothing to do with the teens?
DeleteThere is no absolute answer because they ever talked about the 2 kids doing anything so maybe they did do something but nobody was paying attention to what the 2 students were doing and they may have just did something which David thought they were mocking him even if t they weren't. The reason I think this is because as soon as somebody acts like they are pushing a wheel, its a natural instinct for David to think that people are mocking him him because David is used to being mocked due to his wheelchair. Even if they had done something maybe nobody else was paying attention because in reality nobody actually goes around looking at every single person on the street. Maybe in this situation Davids eyes wandered off toward those 2 kids and he saw them mocking him and maybe Sean was looking somewhere else until David shouted. I think that this all can be a misunderstanding and the 2 students may have not been mocking him purposely or maybe they where but nobody else besides David had seen them.
ReplyDeletewell because we were in seans perspective listening to his thoughts only following him around we only know about Sean David is a total stranger in my opinion. we can never or most of the time never tell what David is going to do. the most we know David has a bad temper and is also the one to flirt and fool around. so in this case it is not a surprise David got mad at something not directed to him. even Sean was surprised! the two boys he was yelling at looked even more surprised! and looking at what happened seeing a small hand gestures that far away he might have mistaken it for being a insult.
ReplyDeleteso this is most likely one huge understanding which is still unresolved due to a sudden cliff hanger
to be continued