Eden posed this great question on the blog but only a few got a chance to answer it. Lets explore this situation and post a comment.
"Imagine that the kid in the wheel chair was not in a wheel chair. And was a student that had no history of fighting or getting in trouble and got in a fight with a kid that has a long history of fighting.
Would you expect the same punishment for both students?"
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If i were McCulley i would give them the same punishment, because it's the first day of school and there's no reason to be fighting they caused the fight themselves.
ReplyDeletesure but even if the wheelchair person started it he has a clean record but sean does not which is why he has to get blamed
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Deletebut the other person had a clean record so why have the same punishment?
DeleteWhat if it was not the first day of school should they still get the same punishment
DeleteYou just met the kid and got into a fight you don't even know them so don't you think it would be weird. I'm pretty sure that if we went back to the novel in McCully's mind he probably thought scott sent sean to bully the kid.
Delete@Ashley yeah i still think they should get the same punishment
Deleteyea but they are setting an example for other kids to fight which is wrong
Deletei can connect my understanding to the real world:
Deletethere are two people and one has good credit and one has horrible credit; they both asked for the same amount of loan to the government but as a fact they would look at both of their records and they will give the person with a good credit the loan because they cant trust the bad credit person with the loan right?
this is just like th e story rebound were they both got into a fight = the both asked for the same amount of loan
they looked at seans trouble record and the other guys to to believe whos fault it was= they looked who is trustable with the loan and with the good credit
In an island we would say both should get the same punishment because it should be fair and equal but come to reality we aren't living on an island we all judge by one another's past. No matter how much we say lets start fresh lets forget about what happened.Saying that wont make a difference what happened happened and it will always be their. But if you think about it if you were in the person's shoe that has a bad reputation how would you react?
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ReplyDeleteno i do not think that they would get the same punishment because after a while by default you know that the boy with a long history of fighting is the one that started it even though sean wanted a fresh start he is still the one with the default "his fault"
ReplyDeleteSo you think Sean would end up with a punishment and not the other kid?
Deleteno I think that sean and the other guy should get a punishment but sean should get a bigger one for breaking his promise.
Deleteya abeeshan is right but mccullys sympathy is going to let him go with no punishment due to the fact that he is in a wheel chair
DeleteDo you think that reputation is everything ? Wonder if half people say you have a good reputation but the others say not so good what would you do then ? how would you be balanced how would the decision be made? Would the punishment be equal then?
DeleteYeah Mcully thinks that Sean started the fight but he doesnt know for sure so he should give both the boy in the wheel chair and Sean the same amount of punishment
ReplyDeletesometimes even what you see can be wrong
I agree because even Sean thought about maybe that everybody in the crowd saw it wrong accept scott but he cant be trusted after his grade 7 year
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Deleteexactly look at the evidence @preet good reputation vs bad reputation i thike every one would give most of the blame to the trouble maker right???
DeleteI understand what you are trying to say but wouldn't/ shouldn't you be judged by the past and present of a person? Give some examples of what punishments they can both get?
DeleteNo, I don't expect the same punishment for both students. I believe Sean would get suspended since he made the promise to Mr.McCully and his parents, i think the other kid would just go off with a warning, since he's never been in trouble before. The worst he could get is cleaning the school yard.
ReplyDeleteThat'd be purty bad doncha think? What if the school was like 400 metres or somthing. That could take a whole day without machines or help.
Deletei don't think it would take THAT long, not everyone throws their garbage everywhere outside, and if he puts alot of effort into it, it'll go by fast. And i don't think the school yard's that big.
Deletethats a good point but the kid in the wheel chair started the fight and called sean a punk. do you think now he deserves the same punishment ? :$
Deletewell you also got to think that he is in a wheelchair so mccully bias will give him a break also the rest of the students that mccully is going to ask what happened about the fight will feel sorry for the wheelchair boy and blame it on sean
DeleteI agree sarah but the other kid should also be suspended but only for 1 or 2 weeks because it doesn't matter if Sean have a record of fighting and the wheel chair boy don't.
Deletebut the Vice principale wasn't there when he called him a punk. Even though Scott was there, McCully wouldn't have believed him because they always cover for each other. So i still think he wouldn't get punished.
DeleteWhy should the other guy get off so clean? Isn't fighting considered a very bad thing and worthy of suspension?
Deletetrue but mr. mccully does not know that he called him a punk and started the fight
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Delete@am 17 : I agree but the difference in this question is that we're saying "what if he wasn't in a wheel chair"?
Delete@Sana Shakeel : 2 weeks is alot. I'd say the most days being suspened for Sean would be a week. I don't think McCully knew who the wheelchair kid is because he never got in trouble before, so i don't think the very first punishment is going to be suspension.
sarah than the vp should ask people who watched the whole fight
Delete@Talha : Yes, but the kid has a clean record! He's never got in trouble before! So why would he get in trouble, no one thought it was him to started the fight either.
Delete@Pablo : People could have seen the fight wrong. What's the chance to find a kid who wasn't in the fight who knows exactly what happened from begginning to end?
So you would say one person has done more then the other? So they should both get punishments but at a different level.But what would you say about that snapshot Mr.McCully saw? If we changed David up a bit and made him not on a wheel chair do you think that snap shot would have been same so you think if David wasn't on a wheel chair none of this would have happened?
DeleteIf they were going to get punished, yes. I think that because it wouldn't be fair. David did all the physical damage to Sean. But Mr'McCully didn't know that. But this is also Seans fault if you think about it. If he'd just moved out of the way when David asked, rudely or not, he should've moved out of the way. He didn't though. So both guys did something wrong, but on different levels. Sean was only being rude verbally, but David beat him up. So it wouldn't be fair for both to have the same punishment.
DeleteIf David wasn't on a wheelchair none of this would've happened. He wouldn't have had to go up the ramp where Sean and Scott were, and there wouldn't be a fight. David would've just walked up the steps to the school
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ReplyDeleteWhat do you think should be their punishment?
DeleteIf I didn't know who really started the fight, assuming Sean did it, I would give the boy with the history a week of suspension, and the boy with no history a warning or to do community hours and help around the school for a day or two.(cleaning, organizing..)
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DeleteI would expect the same punishment becuase the kid still fought sean and acted tough by calling sean a "PUNK" so i dont think that the kid in a wheel chair would have that type of attitude and have no history of fighting."PLUS HAVE ANY OF YOU THOUGHT THAT MAYBE THE KID IS IN THE WHEEL CHAIR BECAUSE HE HAS ALREADY HAD FIGHTS BEFORE AND MAYBE INJURED HIMSELF BECAUSE THATS WHAT I THINK"
ReplyDeletebut the wheelchair kid has no history of getting into any trouble.
DeleteBut reamenber mauman Mc culley dint hear the kid in the weel chair say punk and reamember he has a clean record.I would thinke they dont get the same punishment.
DeleteYeah but he said he was going to INVESTIGATE!!! and we still have to hear the next chapter
Deletethats a really good point maybe he did get into a fight probably thats why he ended up in the wheel chair
Deletebut remember, that not erveruyone saw the same thing or had the same idea as sean
Deletethan i guess the vp should ask more people who did watched the whole fight
DeleteNauman has a point about the guy getting in a fight that led him to being in a wheelchair. But remember, he was wearing a hockey jersey that indicated that he played hockey. Hockey players tend to be rough and maybe it was a sports related injury that got him in a wheelchair
Deleteyeah we know that but still if They trusted Scott only thann all would be good but what is scott dosent think that sean was the one pushed what if he saw the same as the rest
DeleteAnd Talha good point because that could lead to something in the book
DeleteThat's an amazing point, i've never thought of that before. I guess you really need to investigate deeply like the saying, "innocent until proven guilty", when something like this happens, and I guess we will find out in the next chapters and questions like that are actually what we should look into when predicting.
DeleteWell if you go with the story you predicted he could have fought but again he's the new kid the principle doesn't no much about him yet. So he can't really judge
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ReplyDeleteNo, I would not expect the same punishment because the guy with a history of fighting would be obviously be punished more because everybody would believe that he started the fight,where as the one without any history of fighting would be the innocent one. But, it could be the total opposite. But, my opinion is that the guy with a fighting history would be punished more than the one that has no history.
ReplyDeleteTrue but if they knew what realy happened than i think that the kid in the wheels chair should deserve a peice of the punishment too!
Deleteyes, I agree but i didn't say that the guy in the wheelchair was NOT going to get any punishment he WILL get a punishment but not as much as the one with the record.
Deleteok i guess so but i still think that they should get same punishment
Deletei agree with nauman, you cant punish the one and not the other when they both did somthing equaly wrong
DeleteWell, it depends on your bias so I think it should be diffrent where as you guys think it should be the same
Deletebut your accountable of your past nauman
Delete@LAUREN: yes they can. if you started a fight, then you'd get in more truble than the kid you fought with. IF YOU START A FIGHT YOU WILL TAKE THE MOST (JUSTICE!!).
DeleteI would say no because the kid how is all way good could get like a warning but the kid how has bad history could get expeled or worse.I say this because were all bias in some sort of way,we only look at the evidence and say BAM!!!!! its the trouble maker fault.What do you say?
ReplyDeleteWe're not bias anymore the "wheelchair guy" isint in a wheelchair anymore.
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Deletehe has a "clean record" because hes new, he could be a big bully in his old school for all you know.
DeleteEXACTLY imagine a new kid came and did the same but only becasue of depression not because of his attitude
Deleteif the kid wasnt in a wheelchair and if i were Mculley, i wouldnt give them both the same punishment because one has a history of getting into lots of trouble and the other doesnt.
ReplyDeleteYeah but you still have to consider the attitude the kid gave to sean and who started the fight over what
Deletebut Mcully never saw how it started
Deleteyea but he will investigate in next chapter
Deletebut everyone thought the same thing they all saw. right?
Deleteyes I dont agree
ReplyDeleteThey shouldnt get the same punishment even if he was in a wheel chair or not. What he did was wrong so as Sean.
They were both wrong. Even if he had no wheel chair and no record for fighting he would of got in to trouble you have to judge someone by their past. People can change over the summer just like Sean was about to get a fresh start. But then again when we come back to reality we are always judging someone by their past because when choosing someone in your group judging with their past comes automatically.
I agree with you on your last part of the paragraph:But then again when we come back to reality we are always judging someone by their past because when choosing someone in your group judging with their past comes automatically." <<< That is #RealTalk.
Deletei would give the same punishment to him because he still faught and he called sean things. but i think the vice princible is going to give the kid in a wheel chair a warning like he did to sean. but he should still should get the same punishment as sean cause it wouldnt be fair also the kid in the wheel chair is the one who started it.
ReplyDeleteI TOTALY AGREEE WITH YOU!!!!
DeleteYes, I agree with you when it comes to giving the kid a warning.
DeleteBut if you were the principle then I'm sure you'd be more mad at Sean so you would go a bit harder on him. You may think that you wouldn't but thats only because you know what the story behind it is. But if you were the principle, then you wouldn't.
agreed with aynur read my last point new dission
Delete@ pablo: it also wouldnt be fair to the new kid. imagine you were the new kid.
Deletewho are you
DeleteYes, I think both the boys should get the same punishment because it's the first day of school and even if the boy does not have a record of fighting, it wouldn't be fair
ReplyDeleteWell, it depends on your bias of how to think of them.
DeleteI would expect Sean to get into a little bit more trouble becasue he told his VP that he was going to have a fresh start and stop fighting, but I think the "wheelchairguy" would still get into lots of trouble, because he would beat up Sean because of his hockey jersey and if your wearing one you probably know how to fight.
ReplyDeleteBut sean has a bad history and the "weelchairguy" has a clean record.I thinke sean would be in a lot more trouble.
DeleteWhat does a hockey jersey have to do with the fact that the kid in the wheelchair started the fight?
DeleteThe hockey jersey can tell a lot if your wearing one you could be a fan of hockey, obviously. So he probably knows how to fight @ Aliyah
Deleteagreed with aliyah and do you think sean should really get more blame for it ? the kid in the wheel chair started the fight and called sean a punk
Delete@Derrick i said that in my post.
Deleteyea pablo but Mc culley did hear that right
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Delete@ Pablo. Sean had a history for fighting and the "wheelchair guy" didnt so McCulley would be biased towards him.
Delete@Preet. In the question it said what if the "wheelchair guy" had a clean rcord.
DeleteI never knew hockey was something that made you look tough lol but I guess you could say that since their teeth always seem to be missing.
DeleteI said that in the qustion mr cheney gave us @preet
Delete@Aynur. Ahahaa. Im just making an assumption.
Deleteopps i didnt read that part of the question
Deletesorry
@ Danyal: hockey jersy could also maen just a fan. right?
Delete@Raddcircles X? It could but im just making an assumption right?
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ReplyDeleteMy bad i read the question wrong.
Deleteyes, both of them should get the same punishment weather the boy in the wheel chair had no history of fighting but stiil he fight with the guy who have a long history of fighting. And if Sean only get this punishment it's not fair for him to be the only one who gets a punishment. It doesn't matter if the boy in wheel chair have no history of fighting because it doesn't mean he don't have to be punished for fighting.
ReplyDeleteEden did not mention Sean by name, the question is a general statement but many of you are still stuck in the novel. Go beyond talking about Mr. McCully and Sean.
ReplyDeleteOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
DeleteMeesa understand now. I thought it was a question for the novel
John maybe you wanted the question to be about the novel. Thus you read it that way. But this trend highlights that readers keep the text separate from their own world.
DeleteTHAT, Mr. Cheney, THAT is TRUE wisdom. Only an experienced old soul would come up with that. How did you?
DeleteNo, I think that Mr. McCully would punish Sean again, because he has the long history for starting fights/being in fights. But, he might have at least have asked both kids what happened beacause since the boy in the wheel chair is in a wheelchair, he thinks that it isn't possible for him to have started it, or even fight back, because he feels bad(As you can tell how Mr. McCully's voice and expresssion changed when he saw the boy in the wheel chair try and crawl back into it)
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Deletei dont agree with with because if if the kid didnt have a wheelchair i think that they would of both gotten the same punishnment. I Say this because for example, if someone at beaumonde heights gets in a fight with a "new kid" they would of both gotten in trouble, even if the "new kid" never got in trouble before!
NO because the person with the fighting history would get more punisment becaue he was warned and the person with no history of fighting they would still be punised but lesser.
ReplyDeletethe person that has no history of fighting what do u think the punishment should be? and justify your answer
DeleteNo because one of the guys has a history and one does not have a history but if they both have a history of fight then i do think they should both have the same punishment so since one has a history of fight and one dose not i think they should have different punishment,the guy with a history should be punished more
ReplyDeleteIt really dosen't matter, both of them should get the same punishment, they both were violent to eachother and didn't try to stop it.
Delete@ Ashley
DeleteI Dont Agree With You Very Much. The Reason Why Im Say This Is Because Even though the kid had never gotten in trouble before, i think that they would of both gotten the same punishnment
@geetanjali do you still think that after what mr.cheney said?
Delete@ michael if u were new to a school and got into a fight do u want the same punishment as a kid that going into a lot of trouble alot like every day and wat Mr.Cheney said in the libray
DeleteI think if the wheelchair guy could walk, then he will get a more severe punishment. Right now, we don't know if he ever got in trouble or if he will. The reason, Mr. McCully was being biased. However, he still might be biased. Sean has a history as a trouble maker so Mr. McCulley will automatically think that Sean was the provoker and the guy was trying to defend himself. As the guy was probably new and Mr. McCulley doesn't know anything about him. So long story short, Sean will get a larger punishment then the other guy, because Mr. McCulley will be biased(again).
ReplyDeleteBased on what Mr. Cheney said, here's my answer.
DeleteSo there's the kid with a history of bad deeds and there's a new kid who no staff members know about. Now if they got into a fight, both with get into trouble. But the problem is, we have no detail of the situation. If this was from the book, then we'd know the details. However we don't know who started it, if the new kid has a history,etc. Without any details, then the guy with the history will get in more trouble because he is probably known by all the staff members and they'll be biased and automatically assume that the guy with the history, is the one who started it. Think of it this way: You need a ride, will you go home with your friend or a stranger?
To reiterate, the boy with no history on fights would most likely get a warning or smaller punishment.
ReplyDeleteEven if he started it?
Deletewell fatma fighting is major so maybe not a warning probably a detention
Deleteits as simple as this, both kids should get suspended because they both acted violent! it doesent matter about who threw the first punch, its that they didnt have the decency to stop it.
ReplyDeleteI think it should matter who threw the first punch because whart if one kid was just defending against some rough-houser? Should the defender get punished for trying to keep himself safe? If you still think so then that's warped (just like me TEEHEE).
Deletei agree with your point but isn't suspension too harsh for just a simple fight. it should be like detention for 4 weeks.
Delete@navipintu: you do realize 4 weeks is a month right?
Deletei know but 4 week sound bigger get lemon
DeleteHA HA HA!! funny jhon. the point is you DONT know what the situation, the possibilitys are endless. im trying to look at the situation as a principal, if you dont see the fisrt punch then it doesnt matter to the principal. the person VERBALY ABUSING the other person tecnaclly started the fight. so it.doesnt matter.who.threw.the.first.punch.
DeleteNO LEMONS FOR JU!! My name is LEMAN!!! LEMAN!!!!!! I NO APPRECIATE YOU MAKE DU FUN O MAH NAIME!!! Don't make fun of my nom. Om noms.
DeleteYes it does. It's the same as law although you don't get as severely punished or have to pay double the worth of something.
DeleteIf you throw the first punch you are SCREWED. End of story no arguments (joking, keep arguing I'm bored).
Also, Sean wasn't technically badmouthing the wheelchair kid, he was just being a stuck-up jerk. There is a large difference.
DeleteI say this because it seems like you were quoting/associating with the book.
DeleteYou also spelled John's name wrong. How do you manage to spell a four letter name wrong??!! HOW!!!!!????
DeleteHm...
ReplyDeleteWell a kid that has no history of fighting getting into a fight with a kid that does leads off to a different situation. But of course Sean would get into the same exact trouble cause either way Mr.McCulley would get angry. It would be directed at Sean more though. So basically the punishment would be the same for Sean except I think that the kid would get detention and would be punished too.
Since the kid is in a wheelchair he has the advantage to get away with things. But if he wasn't, then I don't think so. Because he doesn't so innocent now does he.
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ReplyDelete@Fried Chicken LOL at the name, the question is asking that if the kid wasn't in the wheel chair and picked a fight with Sean would you give them the same punishment?"
Deletei remember that sean fell on a wheelchair and rolled. so it looked like sean was hitting. but if there were no wheel chair how would he fall on it. so it will look like that the other boy was hitting.
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DeleteBONQUIQUI!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Deleteif the wheelchaired guy didn't have a wheelchair he wouldn't go on the lose the principle would'vetook him to the office and punish them.sean will no punishment because the principle mostly thought that the boy has a wheel chair how will he start the fight. but if he didnt it can be that sean was telling the truth. plus it seemed that sean fell on his wheelchair thats how they fell. what if there were no wheelchair. then that boy will be the only one fighting.
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DeleteI Agree With You. The Reason Why I Say This,Is Because Without The Wheelchair They Would Of Both Gotten In Alot Of Trouble. So Yes, I Belive That Even If The Wheelchair Kid Had Never Gotten In Trouble Before, Sean Promised To Mr.Mccully And His Parents That He Would Of Never Get In Trouble This Year. So Yes I Think That They Would Of Both Gotten In Trouble.
better answer: the bad guy should have a more bigger punishment then the other boy because it is most likely that the bad kid started the fight. so it will look like that the other boy will just get a warning.
DeleteI would give both Sean and the kid in the wheel chair the same punishment.No matter how Sean is the kid didn't deserve to just start fist fighting without no reason. Fighting is not going to solve anything. I'm sure if the kid wasn't in the wheel chair,the fight would lead to a bloodbath.Both would deserve the same punishment because fighting wasn't the answer.Also both of them need to learn a lesson.Sean to not fight,and wheel chair kid to not get into fights.Both shall suffer the same consequences for fighting.
ReplyDeletewhat if both students were in wheel chairs? what would happen?
ReplyDeleteThen maybe the Vice Principal talk to both of them and maybe he will suspend both of them because of figting.
DeleteAnother thought is maybe the Vice Principal don't ask them anything because of their prolem of being in a wheel chair.
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DeleteWell, I think that I would've had a mind of McCully at that point because I would reflect upon the past of their record.Like i said in Mr.Cheneys previous post that McCully would see the difference between their History.
ReplyDeleteSean has been in trouble multiple times and the wheelchair kid probably had no record of it whatsoever.
Plus again like Scott, he said "he's in a wheelchair!" same thing goes for McCully the bias kicks Sean right in the knee. Plus McCully hasn't seen the fight entirely but it doesn't mean anything to him because he knows he said the right thing.
Keeping everbody waiting for the inspection just makes someone like McCully probably didn't see the fight either.
Personally I think the wheelchair kid shoudln't get a punishment at all because he did the "right thing".
Teh question is about the real world not teh novel.
DeleteSorry i wanted to show both sides like the novel and real life.
DeleteHere is the real world opinion If the kid was just like a person thats not disabled.Then the misfit would just walk in there and not move out of the way for the stairs. Isn't that just great! That would just be propaganda to the wheelchair kid if he was to be treated like a little punk.
I'll continue on the same post later...
also if the guy in the wheel chair is not in a wheel chair then the vice principal will also ask him about the whole scenerio, and they bothy will still get the same punishment.
ReplyDeleteWell, I think they do deserve the same punishment. It doesn't matter what had happaned in the past, it's about the present. It would be bias judging them by what they had done before. You don't know what they are going through or what they are fighting about. Everyone has a bad side and this has to be expected. Even if someone is been good all along, they will show their bad side one day. On the other hand, if you think about it, the way that Mr.McCully had treated the boy in the wheel chair so nicely, he might as well have abehivior about being bias to everyone. Maybe he has something against Sean that will always cause him to seem like the trouble maker. However, if I were to give the punishment knowing the situation, Sean wouldn't deserve equal punishment. He deserves a little less, compared to the other boy.
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Delete@ aniqer why do u think that Sean should get little less punishment when he was fighting with a boy who is in a wheel chair? and still he have a long history of fighting..
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Delete@ Sana:Like I said before in the text,"However, if I were to give the punishment knowing the situation, Sean wouldn't deserve equal punishment. He deserves a little less, compared to the other boy." I understand what you mean and you are completely right. What I was saying was if Mr.McCully did know the situation.
DeleteI think that the Goodboy would probably get like a detention or something along the lines of a warning.
ReplyDeleteBadboy would probably get a suspension or a lot of detentions, LOTS OF DETENTIONS. 0_0
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Deletei agree with you 100%, all the way its so true
Delete@John: Yes, I do think this too. I mean the badboy must have gotten the same punishment over and over. It should be changed since we can see that the punishmeant is not working. He needs a stronger warning.
DeleteEeeyup. The bad dude should be punished more. So should the other guy but not as harshly.
DeleteYes, it's like they have different level of warnings depending on who they are.
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ReplyDeleteI would say no because if the kid in the wheel chair was not anymore and since sean has a llong history of fighting the VP would automatically assume it was Sean who started it because of his history of fighting.
ReplyDeleteDIFFRENT DISSISION I THINK SEAN SHOULD GET INTO MORE TROUBLE AFTER WHAT MR.CHENEY SAID IT ALL MADE SENSE TO ME. the kid in the wheel chair does not deserve the same punishment cause he never got into a fight in his life i think he should just get a warning like the vp did to sean and start to a fresh start.
ReplyDeletebut eden said the kid is no longer in a wheel chair no one is in a wheel chair both people can walk but one had a bad rep. and the other one has a good rep.
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DeleteI don't think they should get the same punishment because if a person did it once and twice its more likely for them todo it again and again it becomes a habit.Rather then the person that never did it before...If i were to put myslef in the person that has a bad reputation then i think that i shouldnt get in trouble because i know because someone does it once it mean they will do it again but if a person never did it once doesnt mean they cant do anything that doesnt mean that the person that dosent fight is disabled ... anyone can do anything
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ReplyDeletei think thst your history is what always effects you. Why do people try joining every club respect every teacher its because they build up the rep. they build up who they want to be and who they want to be stated as.
ReplyDeleteso can you argue the quote forget about the past and look to the future
DeleteWell yes because your past reflects your future, its like saying that if you dont study at all and fail you should forget about the past and you will become successful
DeleteI agree Neha. It is the person's own fault for his past to affect the future, in this case.
Deletelistened to what mr.cheney about homework and i throught back and i would always get the same punisment [stay in at lunch] as the kid that would never do there homework and i never had deseverd that punisment and if mr cheney will do the same i will bring this up if i do my homework.
ReplyDeleteIf we go back to the book and make a connection (even thogh we arent talking about the book)Mr.McCully judged the boy in the wheel chair but was that all ? He also judged Sean because of his past and present even though they promised to start fresh. So you think they should still get the same punishment?
DeleteSince my first post was apart of the novel i'll make a new one, in real life.
ReplyDeleteI think the new student would get in a little bit less trouble because of the kid that is already at the school has a history for fighting so the person who saw the fight or the person who told the teacher/VP, is going to give the person at the school already a bit bigger punishment.
would your opinion change if both of the student went to the school (so their was no new student)? Both of the student have been going to this school for a long while and one has a clean record and the other one doesn't?
DeleteHi Mr.Cheney! Howz ur class? I really miss this class and the blog
ReplyDeleteOh and i bet u luv the google doodle ( 46th anniversary of STAR TREK!!!!! ) and what happened to teaching grade 2 this year?
ReplyDeletewho is 1D lover?
ReplyDeletethats sonali
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Deleteimma stalker lol jk Aliyah told me ur blogs link and I decided to post a comment anyways I can still post comments cuz I still have my account from last year ( I still remembered ? I usually forget) anyways ya and neha u still remembered it was me yaaay I feel special Lolz BYEEEEZ!!!!!!
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DeleteOh hello Sonali! I like your name but that's my job, lol! We shall make greater friends, as you can tell, I'm a directionr too!:D
DeleteI'm a directioner and a belieber u a belieber????
DeleteNope!!
Deleteanyways i thought over about what Mr Cheney said about comparing novels with real life and its true because behind every novel there's a real life moral or story.
ReplyDeleteto Edens question what i think is that if their was a boy that had a clean record and wasn't handicap or anything and a boy who had a very bad record they shouldn't get the same punishment because the boy who had a very bad record experienced the consequences,most likely,
and the boy who has a clean record even if he gets in trouble once or twice it doesn't really affect him as much as getting in trouble again for the boy with the bad record.
So in the ending you would say that, yes the past and present do matter? If so why does it matter? if you were a teacher or a principal would you judge by the persons past and present? even though you promised a student you would start fresh? is it fair?
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DeleteBut neha sometimes the past does affect the future
DeleteI think the past affects the present. I mean it's nobody's fault that someone else did something in the past that may destroy there future. If they did something in the past, it would be any use giving him the same punishment over, since it would affect him in any way.
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Deletebut your past does also affect what people think about you in the future and the present.
DeleteI'm still really new to this so I was wondering if anyone can tell me if we can post somerthing with out making it a comment on somebody elses?
ReplyDeleteMorning Fatmaa :) Okay so if you want to make a comment of your own the scroll all the way to the bottom of the page on your left hand side their should be a button that says add comment. It wont be all the way down on the page but if you look a bit down from the last comment it should be their. And if you'd like to reply to someone first find their post and under the person that posted it should say reply
DeleteI've been publishing a bunch of stuff, and I don't think all of them said 'comment published' but I really hope they were because they were long and I probabley wont be able to remeber them all:(
ReplyDeleteMorning Neha!! And thank you !!! Btw have you seen any othef my posts like my goals, my prediction becuase I'm not sure if they were posted but i think they weren't 'cause I couldn't see them.
ReplyDeleteUm i havent checked but i can just give me a second.And oh yeah okay so you see how you wrote something and right under it i posted something and it said replies right you do that when you want to be apart of the conversation so dont always add a comment
DeleteFatma the only 2 post i saw of you are : To reiterate, the boy with no history on fights would most likely get a warning or smaller punishment.
DeleteNo, I think that Mr. McCully would punish Sean again, because he has the long history for starting fights/being in fights. But, he might have at least have asked both kids what happened beacause since the boy in the wheel chair is in a wheelchair, he thinks that it isn't possible for him to have started it, or even fight back, because he feels bad(As you can tell how Mr. McCully's voice and expresssion changed when he saw the boy in the wheel chair try and crawl back into it)
Those are the only ones that you have posted